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Re: Wood vs Fiberglass Maintenance cost/time

the one thing good about living aboard a wooden boat is that means you don't have a house to take care of. when you go home after work to the boat you can get right to work sanding, varnishing or repairing something every day. no wasted time going from home to the boat. on the weekends, just wake up on saturday and sunday get right to work sanding, varishing and repairing.
also when you are repairing a house you can buy most of the stuff needed at the $100 store but with the boat you will be shopping at the $ 1000 store.
if you live on a boat in SF you will not feel any of the work distracting earthquakes so you will not be alarmed and can just keep on sanding, varnishing and repairing without interruption
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Re: Wood vs Fiberglass Maintenance cost/time

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Where do metal boats fall along this spectrum? Lets say it started out meticulously cared for.
Is this a hijack? Ignore me if so. :-)
Steel boats require staying ahead of the painting to stave off rust. Attention to zincs/galvanic conditions is critical as well. If I owned a steel boat I'd definitely buy a MIG welder and learn how to use it well.

Aluminium just requires attention to electrical/galvanic conditions. You don't even need to paint them.

Full disclosure, I've never owned either - just observations from decades of hanging around marinas and boatyards.
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Hi Mag,
Welcome to the wonderful world of living afloat!
You need to start with Living Aboard 101.
"Wooden Boat" is not on the curriculum.
It isn't covered in Living Aboard 201 either.
In fact, it really should be a masters program.
A lesson I learned long ago about wooden boats (I have owned, fixed, built and continue ot own them) is that the boat you can afford is a boat that needs work you don't have the time or the skills to do, and if it needs that work you can't live aboard comfortably.

You are potential newbies to
1- living aboard
2-boating
3-sailing AND
4-wood boat maintenance.
The only successful wooden boat owners I know are those who are newbies in only one category before they bought a wooden boat. ...
or those who only use their boats seasonally.

If you want character, look for an older Bayfield.
Phd. and several years of interning.
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Re: Wood vs Fiberglass Maintenance cost/time

Of course, if you asked this question over at The WoodenBoat Forum you might get a different answer. Modern wooden boat construction and material may also make maintenance easier. Even an older wooden boat that has been well maintained will be less work than a badly maintained boat - wood or fiberglass. Fiberglass boats probably tolerate neglect and abuse better.
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Of course, if you asked this question over at The WoodenBoat Forum you might get a different answer. Modern wooden boat construction and material may also make maintenance easier. Even an older wooden boat that has been well maintained will be less work than a badly maintained boat - wood or fiberglass. Fiberglass boats probably tolerate neglect and abuse better.
I'm sure there are lots of guys out there, like CharliCobra, to whom hand planing a winding, tapered bevel to a 64th on a plank is childs play.

To us mere mortals however, saturating some glass cloth with resin is a little closer to an attainable skill set.
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Re: Wood vs Fiberglass Maintenance cost/time

Having just spent my 4th Saturday stripping and re-varnishing the 5ft x 3" piece of Teak trim across the stern, I can honestly say that a fibreglass boat with a few bits of Teak brightwork is all I cope with.
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Re: Wood vs Fiberglass Maintenance cost/time

what about cold molded? low maintenance, and its wood inside. http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...0014&noOfPic=1 -

Out of price range, but a good example. If I could afford it though... Pretty wood interior, lower maintenance hull.

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what about cold molded? low maintenance, and its wood inside. View Boat Photos - YachtWorld.com -

Out of price range, but a good example. If I could afford it though... Pretty wood interior, lower maintenance hull.
Cold moulded is my personal favourite - best of glass and wood. It's not really a wood boat in the sense we are discussing here - it's properly termed a composite boat because the wood is merely the fiber - it's the combination of fiber and resin that makes the material.
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Re: Wood vs Fiberglass Maintenance cost/time

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Cold moulded is my personal favourite - best of glass and wood. It's not really a wood boat in the sense we are discussing here - it's properly termed a composite boat because the wood is merely the fiber - it's the combination of fiber and resin that makes the material.
If it's your personal favorite, you've obviously never owned one. Best of glass and wood?? Surely you mean the opposite. It might look flash but if you ever get any hull damage, personally, I don't think anyone has yet invented a more complicated and expensive system to fix!

Cold-moulded makes traditional timber repair look like child's play.


Wood vs Fibreglass?? In my experience, when people talk about "low maintenance" and "boat" is the same sentence, they usually mean "absolutely NO maintenance unless absolutely necessary - we just want to sail the thing". A traditional timber boat needs some level of regular maintenance perfectly within the capability of a live-aboard whereas a f'glass boat needs none at all - until almost-too-late.

Both $$$ and time average out in the long term leaving only personal preference as the real decider.. but most go the "no maintenance" route - buy f'glass, sail it for a while and then sell it as a "project boat" just before it becomes too expensive to fix.
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Re: Wood vs Fiberglass Maintenance cost/time

I looked into buying a wood boat once, but it "popped a plank" while the owner was moving it and sank like a rock. No problem the owner said, "it does that all the time", if it happens to you just get it hauled out , and get a new plank, no problem.......I bought a fiberglass boat.

It feels good to own a boat that does not rely on rustable fasteners to stay together, and isn't considered food by the stuff the grows under the waterline.
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