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Oil based paints banned in September

I've just heard that, in BC, all oil based pants will be banned as of September first. I have asked both the feds and the provincial governments, and they snuck it in so secretively, that neither one will tell me which is responsible.
Latex paint on your hull ,anyone?
It shouldn't surprise anyone, if the paint manufacturers encouraged the move. If the only paint you can buy is paint which falls off, they get to sell you more paint.
In Canada, every MP has a toll free number you can call him at, for free.
Here, in this area it is 1-800-667-8404. For the BC provincial government, you can call 1-800-663-7867, and ask to be connected to the premiers office or the environment ministers office. They can possibly clarify things for you. I dont know if the ban includes urethanes, but with urethanes, when you want to recoat, you have to sand some glass hard surfaces, or the next coat wont stick, and it takes ideal condtions to get it to work well.
Oil based paint was easy and forgiving to use, year round, and affdordable.
Amazing that, while they encourage crude oil laden super tankers to run thru some of the most pristine and sensitive cruising grounds in the world , which are also the most dangerous, they have some major "Environmental concerns " about the linseed oil in our paint, and want to restrict us to using stuff which is completely useless as a hull paint. .
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Re: Oil based paints banned in September

All of this is a big hassle that, to my mind, is totally unnecessary. If the Government of Canada was truly serious about tackling environmental issues, they would not be facilitating the Alberta Tar Sands the way they are. They would also take a leadership role in international talks around fossil fuel combustion and climate change. You canít take 100-million-years-worth of sequestered carbon deposits, throw them into the atmosphere over a period of 100 years and expect life to go on as usual. However, that is a discussion for another time and place.

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Re: Oil based paints banned in September

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All of this is a big hassle that, to my mind, is totally unnecessary. If the Government of Canada was truly serious about tackling environmental issues, they would not be facilitating the Alberta Tar Sands the way they are. They would also take a leadership role in international talks around fossil fuel combustion and climate change. You canít take 100-million-years-worth of sequestered carbon deposits, throw them into the atmosphere over a period of 100 years and expect life to go on as usual. However, that is a discussion for another time and place.

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Both industry and provincial and federal governments, as well as the public in Alberta, call them Oil Sands. Tar Sands is considered pejorative.
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Re: Oil based paints banned in September

" I dont know if the ban includes urethanes,"
You're just twenty years behind the California standards. They've required "zero VOC" paints for about that long, which essentially means everything has to be water-based. The water-based urethanes (yes, there are such things) have come a long way, so the odds are urethanes won't be banned in BC, you'll just have to switch to the "california blends". Or stock up now.
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Re: Oil based paints banned in September

Can I buy urethanes for $27 a gallon? Can I recoat after several years, without sanding a glass hard surface, as urethanes are, as I do with oil based paints?
Do oil based paints do more damage to the environment than a supetanker breakup, or an oil pipeline broken by a rock slide?
Given their love of cars, and their lack of support for public transit, California law is, in many ways, the definition of environmental hippocracy. Canada doesn't need to import it here.
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Re: Oil based paints banned in September

Well, I promise that if you find out who passed the legislation, I'll never vote for them. And you can tell them so.

Here in the US, you can buy latex interior housepaint for $25 a gallon if you buy it off-brand or on sale.
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Tar Sands is considered pejorative.
As it should be.

Right up there with Ford F150, Escalade and Navigator.
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As it should be.

Right up there with Ford F150, Escalade and Navigator.
Yes, I understand that F150's are not practical in Toronto; Priuses are not exactly useful for hauling lumber, hay, drill bits, livestock feed or fertilizer.

Mind you, you probably think that your meat comes from the grocery store, born on styrofoam and wrapped in plastic. If it is a purebred the bar code comes standard.

Get real. Unless you live completely off the grid, tell me exactly how your lifestyle is supported. Oil and gas is a large part of it.

So if you want to exhibit that urban centric attitude which is always oh so superior, keep using pejoratives. However, if you want to understand how others live, perhaps it would be less confrontational to accept a correction in speech when it is pointed out to you.
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Re: Oil based paints banned in September

Although, in the 416ers defense, how many folks driving pickups NEED pickups?
And when was the last time YOU saw a Navigator "hauling lumber, hay, drill bits, livestock feed or fertilizer"?


BTW, I have hauled lumber in my Smart Cabrio. and drill bits. At the same time.
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Although, in the 416ers defense, how many folks driving pickups NEED pickups?
And when was the last time YOU saw a Navigator "hauling lumber, hay, drill bits, livestock feed or fertilizer"?


BTW, I have hauled lumber in my Smart Cabrio. and drill bits. At the same time.
Some how I don't think we are talking about the same drill bits

Not these: (cost - a few dollars and weigh about 1 oz a piece and can take maybe 75 lb pressure)


But these: (cost - 10's of thousands of dollars, weighs 100's of pounds and can take 70,000 lbs of pressure and more)



And no, you will NOT be hauling them in your Smart Car. Nor pipe stem, nor blowout preventers, cat tracks or the herd bull.

You may want to fantasize that your urban living requires nothing but your eco-car, but you know your wrong.

There is a reason F150's and larger proliferate in the west and the country... because they are used and needed. Smart Cars and Priuses belong in Toronto.
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