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What is the deal. Has any one ever herd, of any one getting in trouble from the FCC, for no license. It is $250.00 to license your boat for a SSB radio. If you mess up on your application, they keep your money, and do nothing. You start all over again. Now you can hire a private company to do it for you for just $75.00 plus the $250. And the paper work that the private company needs from you, is a very short page, probably 10 questions. From this they are able to fill out the entire, 42 page FCC application. So what in the hell, dose the FCC need, 42 pages for. We all have an obligation to each other, and our government. But when they get this stooped, Well I no longer know what the right thing is. Some were down the line there were a lot of governmental agencies, that have forgotten whom they supposable work FOR, not against.
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I dont know how you got in trouble or perhaps you were given some bad information on how to apply because it is actually pretty seamless and painless to file online and receive a Ship Station License and Radiotelephone Operator''s Permit.

You say there are services that charge $75 dollars to do it for you? Well in fact I would take $25 a pop all day to file for folks and might actually feel a little guity because it has become so easy. And 42 pages? Somebody has been smoking something and has actually passed you some.

If you are sailing internationally or operating on SSB in US or international waters, you will need to make an application for both a Ship''s Station License - "Service SA" (for the boat), and a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator''s Permit - "Service RR" (for you). The Ship''s Station License covers all electronic equipment on your boat, e.g., VHF, SSB, radar, EPIRB. They confirmed this for me in an e-mail. The Ships License is good for 10 years; the operators permit is forever. If you transmit on Amateur (Ham) frequencies, you will need a Ham license.

Below is a simple process for electronic filing.

1. Go to the FCC Universal Licensing System (ULS) web page for electronic filings http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls
2. File for a Federal Registration Number (FRN) under CORES . No fee, but a FRN is required before applying for a license or permit online.
3. Use "Online Filing" to apply for a Ships Station License and a Restricted Radiotelephone Operators License. These are two separate filings.
Ships License -- Form FCC 605 + Schedule B; Fee = $150 by credit card + Form FCC 159 "Remittance Advice"
RTO Permit -- Form FCC 605 + Schedule E; Fee = $50 by credit card + Form FCC 159


Sorry you had such a hard time, and the usual disclaimer applies, I have no commercial or financial interest nor do I work for the FCC or USGOV. I''m just an out of work north east winter season boat skipper.

Captain Bruce Gregory
http://boatskipper.com
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General Class Amature Radio License

$10 and a weekend at your local ham club.
Check with the ARRL for locations.
http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/examsearch.phtml

In addition, you may actualy learn something about radios

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