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Re: Why paint instead of gelcoat?

Sure it does, Smack, especially in the context of this thread.
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Re: Why paint instead of gelcoat?

To add more confusion the the mix I have been told that some new boat manufactures (power) all-grip their boats from the factory over the gel coat finish.
The reason is that the all-grip has a deeper brighter shine that certain buyers prefer.
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Re: Why paint instead of gelcoat?

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To add more confusion the the mix I have been told that some new boat manufactures (power) all-grip their boats from the factory over the gel coat finish.
The reason is that the all-grip has a deeper brighter shine that certain buyers prefer.
As I noted earlier, there's no question the 2-parts have more gloss - you can get a true mirror finish on a properly prepared surface. When in the water though, it doesn't look as good because of all the reflections - gel coat with a good shine looks better.
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Re: Why paint instead of gelcoat?

For those of you that are in favor of gel coat over paint, do you feel the same for darker colors?

Let's face it, everyone scratches their boat. Some keep them insignificant enough, they aren't noticeable from 10 feet away. Others are less fortunate. I had a neighbor with a dark blue gelcoat hull that must have gotten into a dock or some nasty rubbing on a mooring or something bad to the front of her hull. It was a 4 x 4 foot set of serious scratches. It seemed like there was virtually nothing they could do to help. Paint, particularly acrylic, can be repaired. Even the new Alexseal LP paint, claims it can be repaired.
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For those of you that are in favor of gel coat over paint, do you feel the same for darker colors?

Let's face it, everyone scratches their boat. Some keep them insignificant enough, they aren't noticeable from 10 feet away. Others are less fortunate. I had a neighbor with a dark blue gelcoat hull that must have gotten into a dock or some nasty rubbing on a mooring or something bad to the front of her hull. It was a 4 x 4 foot set of serious scratches. It seemed like there was virtually nothing they could do to help. Paint, particularly acrylic, can be repaired. Even the new Alexseal LP paint, claims it can be repaired.
Gelcoat is easy to touch up, that's one of it's best features. My boat had a gouge 3/16" wide, 12 feet long down to the matt - like it had slid along a nail hanging out of a piling. I filled and prepped it and had a guy spray gel over it, then I rubbed it out - it was nearly invisible and this on 40 year old gelcoat.
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Gelcoat is easy to touch up, that's one of it's best features. My boat had a gouge 3/16" wide, 12 feet long down to the matt - like it had slid along a nail hanging out of a piling. I filled and prepped it and had a guy spray gel over it, then I rubbed it out - it was nearly invisible and this on 40 year old gelcoat.
Was this a dark color?
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Sure it does, Smack, especially in the context of this thread.
Well, I guess the way I see it, there are a couple of pretty knowledgeable guys in this thread talking about how gelcoat is superior to paint. And how it's really not that hard to work with. And this seems to be based on their actual experience.

Then there are you and others who insist it's impossible to for a DIYer to get good results with it. And I'm not clear which of this crowd has actually sprayed gelcoat like the former to know that. Though I don't discount what you're saying, I don't just buy it outright either.

So, I guess as someone interested in the issue (and about to try basic gelcoating), I like the advice of the guys in the first group because I like the idea of not having to do the work again for many, many years.

We'll see how it comes out.

(PS - the issue of whether boat yards will allow spraying of gelcoat is another matter I suppose. But, again, even within the context of this thread, I think Rich's comparison is an easy one.)
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Was this a dark color?
Nope - 40 year old, thoroughly oxidized off-white. Why would dark colours be any different? Colour matching is colour matching.
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As I noted earlier, there's no question the 2-parts have more gloss - you can get a true mirror finish on a properly prepared surface. When in the water though, it doesn't look as good because of all the reflections - gel coat with a good shine looks better.
Duratec Clear High Gloss additive and similar gloss gelcoat additives can produce a gelcoat surface with equal gloss to even the 2 Part urethane-acrylic finishes ... and its just as 'repairable' as the copolymer 2-parts. Some would add that the high gloss additives are 'glossier'.
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Re: Why paint instead of gelcoat?

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Duratec Clear High Gloss additive and similar gloss gelcoat additives can produce a gelcoat surface with equal gloss to even the 2 Part urethane-acrylic finishes ... and its just as 'repairable' as the copolymer 2-parts. Some would add that the high gloss additives are 'glossier'.
I just ordered some of this Duratec additive after reading about it and studying the online comments for the past month. Have decided to re-gel coat part of my deck: the areas around the none skid, cabin sides, cockpit and my high bulwarks.

Brought a gallon of colored gelcoat from Fibre Glast - they have over 900 custom colors and what is great is that you can rent a chip booklet for $5.00 for the month, I think I found an exact match to my boats color. Hoping that I get my Duratec and thinner soon and will do some test spraying hopefully this weekend or next. I've never re-gel coated but have used Awlgrip and done a reasonable amount of fiberglass construction and repair. I'll post photos as soon as I've sprayed some samples. Also I'm only going to use those Preval sprayers as I'm only spraying a small area at a time. Wish me luck.
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