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Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

We are workng to get our Endeavour 32 in the water within a week or so but needto replace the halyards as they are metal and have a few meat hooks. Most of what I read points to all rope however I get so many different opinions that is hard to get a definitive answer. Thanks for listening and offering any help.
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Re: Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

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We are workng to get our Endeavour 32 in the water within a week or so but needto replace the halyards as they are metal and have a few meat hooks. Most of what I read points to all rope however I get so many different opinions that is hard to get a definitive answer. Thanks for listening and offering any help.
Replacing mine on my Cal 28 ...

I did alot of research before I did ... went all rope ... and it was less expensive ... be aware you might need to change your masttop sheaves

and as I like to report on good service from vendors ... you might want to give Kevin Coffey at R&W Rope a call and ask him for his recommendation ... they do both

no personal interest in that company ... just a satisfied customer
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Re: Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

Nielsen,

For the life of me I can't think of a single reason to have wire halyards anymore on a boat. In fact I can barely think of a reason to have wire (other than electrical) on a boat anymore at all. Modern line is lighter, cheaper, stronger, stretches less, cheaper, has lower life cycle costs, and doesn't run the risk of slicing your hand apart from meat hooks.

Even on a cruiser, I would recommend tapered endura-braid, or an all dyneema SK-75 line with an end and cover spliced over wear and handling areas. The last time I ran the prices to do this (about 3 months ago) is was roughly 2/3 the cost of a sta-set line, but with much better stuff. Of course I do my own splices, so figure the costs should be comperable if you pay someone to do it.
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Re: Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

Wire rope halyards are definitely old school, and there is no reason whatsoever to install them new. Modern rope technology is far superior in every way. Anybody who says otherwise is simply stuck in the past! I have wire halyards on my boat, and although I have no reason to replace then yet, I would not go wire again when the time comes!
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Re: Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

I replaced the wire / rope halyards on my boat a couple of years ago with StaSet and have no regrets. I did have to change the sheaves at the masthead but that was easy and inexpensive.
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Re: Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

Get stayset, learn to make your own eye splices and become the envy of your dockmates.
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Re: Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

I replaced ours with metal & rope. There was only one reason. I bought all 3 90 footers from a brand new mast that had been damaged in shipping for $25.00 each.
Other than that they basically suck.
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Unan Without hesitation or a single obection. The "I's" have it

That was quicker and more definitive that I expected, but confirms what was enevitable anyway. Thanks to all, now to convince the wife its ok to climb a pole over 40ft using 1/4 in wire for safety.. I imagine that may prove to be a bigger battle not so easily won.
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Re: Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

My wife usually climbs the mast, (we have steps and harnesses) she really loves it. Fortunately it also gets her excited in other ways, so I swallow my manly pride and let her do what she wants. How did I get so lucky?
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Re: Replacing Halyards, metal or rope?

Hi Nielsen -

After almost purchasing a few other boats, we're considering an 82 E32 right now. (Sadly nowhere near your price point...!) While somewhat old-school in many respects, not the most efficient use of space below, etc- I feel the Endeavour has some nice qualities, particularly for new sailors on the Great Lakes.

Unfortunately if we do end up purchasing we would not be putting it in the water until next spring- but we do like the boat. We've had ASA 101 training but other than that are gleeful newbies...

How did the summer go on the boat? Would be interested to hear about your experiences as new sailors, particularly aboard the E32 - and anything else good or bad you care to share about the boat, learning experiences, improvements you've made, etc.

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