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Re: Marine Head Issues

Thanks for the responses...I'm somewhat pleased to see that it is likely the pump, and not a clog somewhere in the lines...I have only had the boat for a few months, so I cannot comment on the status of maintenance/upkeep by the previous owner. I considered replacing the whole unit, but replacing the pump assembly with a new one - not rebuilding the same pump, but replacing with a pre-assembled one, seemed cheaper. I believe it was $65 or so...hopefully that will do the trick.

However, since it won't be till this weekend until I am down on the boat, I'll be wondering all week how it will turn out...
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Re: Marine Head Issues

I spent $80 to rebuild the head on my boat once. It didn't seem that horrendous since nobody had used it in years. Six months later with lots of use the toilet stops flushing. The bowl is, of course, full of all kinds of filth.

Once again to save a few bucks I dove into that biohazard and took it apart. This time I discovered the metal rod in the pump had rusted in half, and I had to replace the toilet anyway.

Never again. I'm a cheap bastard, but it's just not worth it.
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Re: Marine Head Issues

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As you and I have posted before, the cost of a Jabsco rebuild kit is nearly a 100 bucks, for a few dollars more, you get a new head complete with an easy re and re, minus all the aggravation. An education doesn't need to be painful.
And a year or two later you can repeat the process. Jabsco heads are great for the occasional weekend use, but dont stand up to constant use. If you sail a lot then recommend getting a better quality head.
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(snippage)But, from a guy that has done my fair share of rebuilds, fixes and maintenance, I'm becoming a believer in that mechanic's advice. My next go around may be a full replacement and upgrade.
Wow, if I had a Jeanneau 54, I wouldn't rebuild a head, either!
Just kidding, I think replacing it is an excellent option. I'm having some difficulty with the Groco head in my (recently acquired) Cat 30, and I had no idea I could get a whole new unit that cheap.
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Re: Marine Head Issues

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And a year or two later you can repeat the process. Jabsco heads are great for the occasional weekend use, but dont stand up to constant use. If you sail a lot then recommend getting a better quality head.
I'm a cheap bastard, too, but I do draw the line on the really sh**ty jobs. As for education, I know how pumps, check valves, etc work, so I think I'll opt for replacement.

So, Bvander66, et al, could you recommend a better quality head? Appreciate it!
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Re: Marine Head Issues

After my toilet incidents, I was fed up with the crappy plastic stuff, so I went to my local resale shop and bought this rebuilt cast iron beast for $200.



Wilcox Crittendon Junior -- It will flush ANYTHING, and I'm at one year with no issues.

Unfortunately, my sewage lines rotted out and started filling my bilge this summer , but that was an entirely different issue.
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Re: Marine Head Issues

Did I mention I work in the waste water industry? Rebuild a marine head, hah, that's not even a warmup for some of the stuff I have to work on!

I guess my viewpoint is a little different.

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Re: Marine Head Issues

Then again, all of your problems might be clogged hoses and the iniquitious joker valve. Close hull valve, remove hoses, check for salt/urine buildup. over time these hoses will become throughly clogged. replace joker valve. You can replace the entire toilet however that won't teach you anything.
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Re: Marine Head Issues

The choices are pretty simple.

1. Rebuild
2. Replace in kind (same toilet)
3. Buy a good one, like the Raritan PHII, or PHC.
4. Replace your pump assembly with a Raritan LBA which is just the base and pump and you reuse your old bowl
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Re: Marine Head Issues

I am going the replace pump assembly route, but with the replacement Jabsco pump. The next go-round (which I'm sure will inevitably occur) will involve replacing the whole head and upgrading to a better unit.

I've seen in some other threads/posts that a Raritan unit has the same footprint as the Jabsco compact, thereby avoiding the need to drill new holes. Can anyone comment as to whether this is true?
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