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I've seen a few Cetol finished boats and they always look like they are wearing fake tan, do they do a non-coloured one too? And no gloss for me, I find it a little too much, rather like those chrome wheels you North Americans are so fond of.
There's tbe rub, what you're most likely seeing are finishes that the owner has only used the base color and no clear, what happens is they are scuffing the color when they apply their maintenance coat causing it to muddy.

What should have happened is that they applied 2 clear coats (gloss) over the 3 color coats so when they do the maintenance coat they scuff only the clear, leaving the color alone and translucent.

I started using epiphanes woodfinish gloss over cetol color a little over a year ago in lieu of cetol clear and it looks great, wears well and gives good depth

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Re: That old wood finish question again

Paul, we do varnish for a reason:


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And it looks great Charlie. I prefer going sailing to varnishing though

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I've seen a few Cetol finished boats and they always look like they are wearing fake tan, do they do a non-coloured one too? And no gloss for me, I find it a little too much, rather like those chrome wheels you North Americans are so fond of.
I don't believe it's void of pigment, but Cetol Marine Natural does not result in the "fake tan" appearance of Sikkens' other products. It leaves a satin finish, an overcoat gloss product is available if you want to pimp your ride.

It's not subjective, Cetol just doesn't look anywhere near as nice as varnish. But it looks good enough for us when we're out sailing instead of laboring over brightwork.

Comparison pictures of the bare teak and with the Cetol Natural applied. Looks the same 2 seasons later (i.e. no discoloration from this tint).

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Varnishing is like some kind of bad drug habit, in the sense of there never being an end to it. There are also the highs (final result looks great) followed by the inevitable lows (a year later and it's all peeling off.
I always thought varnish was a lot like golf - endless effort, expense and frustration in the search for an unattainable perfection.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Re: That old wood finish question again

How about Deks Olje? I used it years ago and it gave a finish quite similar to varnish but went on like oil. It WAS a bit dark IIRC.

Two parts - saturate the wood with part A and then Part B gave it gloss that was easily touched up.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Paul, we do varnish for a reason:

Ahhh, now to get my cabin sole looking like that! I don't care how slippery and dangerous it is.

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We've replaced our brightwork with composite. Say goodbye to wasted space/time that cuts into my beer drinking endeavors.
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If you've read 100 posts about this subject, then you should know nothing much has changed in the past 20 years. Your "criteria" is flawed, because you simply can't get something that looks just like varnish without the work.

--- leave it natural - it "grays"
--- cetol or Semco in all their permutations of colors and layers
--- varnish

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And it looks great Charlie. I prefer going sailing to varnishing though
He sails the crap outta the boat.

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