Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 18 Old 08-10-2012 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

I'm getting serious about maybe getting a sailboat, in either the Morro Bay or Ventura areas of CA. Probably 30'-40'. My main use is simply to escape.

Any tips of do's and don't for newbies would be very much appreciated. Especially realistic costs, things that are worth it and things that aren't.

For example the last boat I owned (32 years marriage and 6 kids ago) was on a trailer so things like hauling and bottom paint, dive services, docks or moorings, etc. were not things I had to think about.

Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance and enjoy your day.
Great Scott is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Aspiring to be a Mexican
 
sww914's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: La Cruz de Hunacaxtle, Mexico
Posts: 542
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Morro Bay is a crappy place to keep your boat because there are no real destinations there other than San Simeon or Port San Luis. Anything else is 100 miles either uphill to Monterey or around Point Conception to Santa Barbara and beyond. I't also chilly out on the water about 364 days a year. It's relatively cheap (about $8.00 a foot or $250.00 for a mooring) IF you can find a berth. Morro Bay is beautiful.
Ventura has tons of destinations, warmer water, a reasonable amount of wind and swell, but it's more expensive to keep your boat there, IIRC $12.00-$20.00 a foot depending on the marina and there are no moorings and no anchorage. Ventura/Oxnard aren't beautiful.
I would chose Ventura if I had to make that choice. I lived in and around Morro Bay for 25 years.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
sww914 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 11,039
Thanks: 46
Thanked 224 Times in 209 Posts
Rep Power: 7
   
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Scott View Post
....serious about maybe.....


You don't need to know the answer, you only need to know whether its worth it.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Minnewaska is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Senior Member
 
Bradhamlet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Simi Valley CA
Posts: 168
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Oxnard may not be beautiful but the Channel Islands are! And they can be sailed to in less than two [ 2 ] hours. yes they are that close. I saw a Blue whale on Tuesday only a mile past Gina. So yes it is wonderful here. Inland temps were 100+ out in the channel well it was just over 70. Don't let anyone know about this thread the may want to come here! Ha ha. My slip rate is high, a least I see it this way. 36 ft boat is about $500 a month. The Winter/Spring gales can be nasty, but nothing a double reef main won't fix. It really is wonderful down here.
Brad
Lancer 36
Bradhamlet is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Senior Member
 
Bradhamlet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Simi Valley CA
Posts: 168
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

I looked up my last haul out bill 12-15-11 it was a sand and bottom paint with the cutless bearing replaced, out of the water about 5 days total and just about $1500 at Annacapa Boat yard. They are great, third time bottom painting there and it won't be the last.
Brad
Lancer 36
Bradhamlet is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

How often do you need to bottom paint?
badfish_2 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 34.25n 119.27w
Posts: 467
Thanks: 1
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Quote:
Originally Posted by sww914 View Post
Morro Bay is a crappy place to keep your boat because there are no real destinations there other than San Simeon or Port San Luis. Anything else is 100 miles either uphill to Monterey or around Point Conception to Santa Barbara and beyond. I't also chilly out on the water about 364 days a year. It's relatively cheap (about $8.00 a foot or $250.00 for a mooring) IF you can find a berth. Morro Bay is beautiful.
Ventura has tons of destinations, warmer water, a reasonable amount of wind and swell, but it's more expensive to keep your boat there, IIRC $12.00-$20.00 a foot depending on the marina and there are no moorings and no anchorage. Ventura/Oxnard aren't beautiful.
I would chose Ventura if I had to make that choice. I lived in and around Morro Bay for 25 years.
+1 everything said above.

Morro Bay is the destination, Ventura is where you park your boat between destinations.

Here are the costs you can expect to pay to keep a boat in the water in Ventura:

Slip fees - $12 to $13/ft and an additional $190 -$250mo if you plan to live aboard. BTW, living aboard is the best value as the boat expenses become your home expenses.

Bottom cleaning - $1.50/ft per month

Insurance (prudent anyway but required by marina) $500 to $$$$$ per year depending on coverage, boat value, cruising area, credit rating etc. etc.

Property tax - 1% of value of boat per year

Bottom paint every 3-4 years - ~$50/ft if the yard does the work, $15 to $18/ft DIY assuming about a 3day turn around(welcome to SoCal)

The above does not take into account the general costs of upkeep such as varnish (refresher coat every 6mo to a yr), polish and wax, rigging, engine etc etc.

For all that you get a potential 365 day sailing season, the best cruising grounds in California with the Channel Islands just 20 miles off-shore, Santa Barbara 25 miles North. LA, Newport, San Diego and Mexico to the South (downhill there, beat back).

Personally, I think it's worth every penny.
SJ34 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Senior Member
 
Bradhamlet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Simi Valley CA
Posts: 168
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

I scrub it myself and do the zincs so we make do with every three years or so.
Brad
Lancer 36

Last edited by Bradhamlet; 08-10-2012 at 10:23 PM.
Bradhamlet is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Southern California
Posts: 649
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Ventura -

Weekend on a deserted Island 4 Hours Easy Sailing

Priceless
WDS123 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 18 Old 08-10-2012
Senior Member
 
Bradhamlet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Simi Valley CA
Posts: 168
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Honest costs of ownership in CA, plus any other tips for a newbe

Also we get the super-charged winds of the Fall and Winter. They are called the "Santa Annas" and let me tell you there an't nothing like 40-45kts and flat water!!! wow you are in for a thrill come Oct/Nov.
Brad
Lancer 36
Bradhamlet is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Boat ownership costs mikepxx Boat Review and Purchase Forum 29 04-02-2007 09:54 AM
Realistic Boat Ownership Costs IslandExpress General Discussion (sailing related) 8 09-10-2006 09:58 PM
Re: Realistic Operating Costs of Boat Ownership NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 05-28-2006 12:15 AM
Re: Realistic Operating Costs of Boat Ownership NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 05-28-2006 12:15 AM
Realistic Operating Costs of Boat Ownership NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 1 05-27-2006 10:13 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome