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Freshen up bottom paint. What's fair $$$

I'm running an ablative bottom paint that has worn and flaked free from the water line yet is still reasonably intact over the rest of the hull.

I had the boat hauled and the yard is going to sand down the areas of flaking paint and prime with barrier coat... leave the more solid areas alone... and then recoat the whole bottom with 2 coats of ablative again. They want about 40 bucks a foot to do that. Seems high to me.

What are your guys thoughts about only spot painting with the barrier coat in the regions that the original paint flaked off. Seems you would be feathering barrier coat OVER old ablative paint?

I would think $40 a foot should cover COMPLETE sand down and barrier coat and recoat with 2 layers?

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Re: Freshen up bottom paint. What's fair $$$

That's high. Unless your boat is a big dog, then $15 per foot for the first coat with a very light sand and $5 per foot for the second would get you fully tuned up. (plus the paint)

I mean, we're talking labor they can practically pay high school kids to do. No experience necessary.
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I just did our 32'r and it cost $150US for one coat in materials; not quite $5 per foot and I supplied the labour. Ablative paints run about $100 per gallon on the low end. You can figure it out from there.
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Re: Freshen up bottom paint. What's fair $$$

The idea of spot barrier coating sounds like a non-starter to me. The barrier coating should be applied over the entire under water surface and then painted with anti-fouling paint. Why do a half way measure of barrier coating some of the hull? The barrier coat is supposed to provide just that; a barrier. If it is not continuous then it is not a barrier at all.

$40/ft sounds quite high to me. I buy 1 gallon each spring and put it on myself with the materials costing < $150 (cheap paint = WM CPP). 1 gallon of paint gives me nearly 2 coats on my 27' boat. I provide the labor and not only did I graduate from high school but have a kolledge degree.
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Re: Freshen up bottom paint. What's fair $$$

I agree that priming with barrier coat doesn't seem to make sense. Either take the bottom down completely and apply barrier coat, or just sand and/or scrape the loose areas and apply bottom paint. Price of $40/ft seems high, but it will probably come down if you tell them to forget the priming with barrier coat. If price includes paint and other materials, it may not be all that high. Note that competely stripping the bottom will cost much more than $40/ft.

As has been noted, if you can do the work yourself, you are looking at saving quite a bit.
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Actually, touching up the primer on a previously barrier coated hull is how it's done. Usually applied to leading edges and places where the ablative paint has worn to the barrier. If the hull isn't barrier coated it's just a waste of material.
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