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Chainplate\Bulkhead Rebuild - Feedback Appreciated (I have no idea what I'm doing)

This summer has been a sad one for my sailing experiences. Constant trailer repairs and small boat issues have plagued me. Anyways, I had spent a few days motoring the boat around using it as a floating party barge for refreshments, music, diving board... This spurred me to switch out my floros to LEDs, and in doing so I just about jammed a screwdriver through my bulkhead. This was as stroke of luck, because, as it turns out, my chainplate was held by the wood veneer which apparently doesn't rot, but everything contained within it was completely gone. In an attempt to have this barge back on the water (with sails up) by the weekend, I will be attempting a very quick and dirty fix. Doesn't have to be pretty, but it has got to be strong enough to last.

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Re: Chainplate\Bulkhead Rebuild - Experienced Help Appreciated

Sad news is your really going to want to fix that properly
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Re: Chainplate\Bulkhead Rebuild - Experienced Help Appreciated

Can you elaborate a little? Are you saying its not a good choice to replace the partial bulkhead instead of the whole thing? I'm not trying to fix it improperly, I'm just trying to do it fast, and have little to no concern for appearances right now, that can be a project for another time.

Also, something weird I noticed about my original bulkhead, it's not "tabbed in" like most I've seen. Instead, it looks like the boat was built with reinforced fiberglass where you would expect the bulkhead to be providing rigidity.
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Re: Chainplate\Bulkhead Rebuild - Experienced Help Appreciated

Swap out the whole thing to be sure and check the other one too. Quick and dirty and bulkheads really doesn't work to well in my opinion. It is the size it is for a reason. I went through it on my O' Day 25 this past spring. Can probably do it in a weekend or a few days after you get everything you need...... My blog has my experience with it. You can start here if you are interested. LINK
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Wow, your PO really did do it quick and dirty! Thanks for the link.
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Re: Chainplate\Bulkhead Rebuild - Experienced Help Appreciated

I just rebuilt the chainplates bulkheads on my 1966 Tartan 27. There's plent of advice out there, so here's what I did.

Measured and cut 1/2 marine ply. Painted with a coat of epoxy. Covered in layer of very heavy fiberglass cloth.

Dry fit bulkhead and marked chainplates holes. Over drilled and filled with epoxy, drill to correct size

Tabbed bulkhead to boat with several layers of heavy cloth. Sand, fair, paint.

Any future water intrusion, and there is always some, should be harmless.

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Re: Chainplate\Bulkhead Rebuild - Experienced Help Appreciated

I vote for bulkhead replacement. I am usually a quick repair and go kinda guy but those chainplates/shrouds do a very important job. I would fix this one properly.
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Re: Chainplate\Bulkhead Rebuild - Experienced Help Appreciated

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I just rebuilt the chainplates bulkheads on my 1966 Tartan 27. There's plent of advice out there, so here's what I did.

Measured and cut 1/2 marine ply. Painted with a coat of epoxy. Covered in layer of very heavy fiberglass cloth.

Dry fit bulkhead and marked chainplates holes. Over drilled and filled with epoxy, drill to correct size

Tabbed bulkhead to boat with several layers of heavy cloth. Sand, fair, paint.

Any future water intrusion, and there is always some, should be harmless.

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Love your idea on how to over engineer the bulkhead. I will be following that as best I can.

Can someone explain the importance of tabbing to me? This bulkhead on my boat was not tabbed from factory.
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Re: Chainplate\Bulkhead Rebuild - Experienced Help Appreciated

It does NOT look like a good idea in your case as its not clear how you would hold it in ?

BUT when i did one with glass tabing


you find rot



make a cutting guide as it need to be on a angle to scarf in new wood



IF IF IF you find solid dry wood


You have to grind massively which is NOT good for the topside finish and glass back in



Then a bunch more sanding and painting none of which is quick and without tabed bulkheads will NOT work
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It looks like you have about the easiest bulkhead replacement possible - get a piece of nice faced ply, cut out the bulkhead and bolt it in place. The fact that it wasn't tabbed in from new means a LOT less work for you now.
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