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HeartofGold 02-18-2004 10:12 AM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
I am looking to paint the hull, deck and nonskid on my Ensenada 20 (trailered). I have decided against 2part due to the cost fo primers, reducers, converters, etc. Any feedback on one-part polyurethane paints, and even products like TopLac are welcome. I am interested in the pros and cons, so anyone with experience painting above the waterline is encouraged to add their 2 cents worth. Thanks.

Doug

paulk 02-18-2004 03:17 PM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
Practical Sailor just came out with a report on one and 2 part paints, in a 2-year test. One -part paints generally came out 2nd best, though there were a couple that performed better than others. If you don''t want to do it again ---- and soon ---- go for the two part, despite the apparent expense. It''s a better investment.

geohan 02-18-2004 06:47 PM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
We have been quite satisfied with Interlux Premium Yacht Enamel on our fiberglass boat for more than 10-years. The chips and dings were first filled with Marine Tex then the topsides between waterline and shear were scuff sanded (80-grit), then coated with Interlux Primer. A week after it''s application the enamel is hard and scuff resistant and has a nice shine without that "Tupperware" gloss which we were trying to eliminate. For good appearance, limit the grit on the decks to the original anti-skid areas by masking off the smooth areas. Touch up or simple recoat every 3 or 4 years (depending upon the gentleness of our slip landings) is enough to keep drawing compliments. Regards, George

splitmind 02-21-2004 06:01 AM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
We refinished an old fibreglass dingy last spring. It was a true mess as the old paint was house paint, badly broken down. Most time was spent sanding and prepping the hull. The painting part is easy.

The paint went on very well. We rolled and tipped. Make sure that you are 100% satisfied with the primed surface before you apply paint. Any flaws will be magified signifantly. Easypoxy white worked very well for us.

jgeissinger 02-21-2004 08:19 AM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
I have used Easypoxy (on complete 23'' sailboat, hull and deck), Brightside (on 2 8'' sabots & 9'' dory), and Toplac (on complete 27'' sailboat, also hull and deck). My actual experiences are:
Easypoxy: good coverage but very poor gloss retention after less than 1 year. (I used dark colors on all these boats.)
Brightside: coverage not very good, more coats required, but very good gloss after time.
Toplac: Best of both worlds for a one part paint. Covered well and has like new gloss two years later.

WHOOSH 02-21-2004 01:50 PM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
J, I was glad to see you could offer comparisons between those paints. I''ve been hearing (in the UK) that Toplac hasn''t been successful despite it''s ''premium'' price point and nitch by the mfgr. Can you tell me where these paint jobs have been done? I''m wondering if either the humidity and/or colder weather might be the cause of the limited satisfaction I''m hearing re: Toplac. Thanks!

BTW I concur about the gloss retention re: Brightside, but I haven''t found it to provide poor coverage. OTOH it''s not been nearly as robust as Intl''s two-part product, IME.

Jack

jgeissinger 02-21-2004 03:54 PM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
All the paint jobs were done in the winter in Southern California. The most recent, Toplac, was done February 2002. It was very damp, even rained one day, with temps in the 50s and 60s F. I did a 27'' sailboat topsides (hull) dark green in a boatyard over a 4 day weekend, using the roller and brush method. I did the deck(ivory color)over a longer period of time later in the season.(It was much more time consuming.) It admittedly does not look as good as a two-part paint job professionally done. But it literally cost me 1/10th what a similar boat paid for such a job, it looks quite nice, and I''m very pleased with it.

HeartofGold 02-24-2004 05:43 AM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
I have read (on Interlux''s site) that recent tests in Florida (where I sail BTW) showed Toplac to have 5 plus year gloss retention. I find this somewhat hard to swallow, but intriguing. My interpretation was that Interlux was claiming that the paint is almost as hard as 2-part with nearly the longevity, but with an ease of application similar to single-part paints.

West Marine''s site had 3 reviews posted for Toplac. Two could have been written by Interlux, they were so glowing. The other one was one of the biggest slams I have ever read. It stated that it covered poorly, looked like #%&*! and that it was the worst paint he had ever used.

I am interested in anyone else who may have experience with this product. Most specifically, I am looking for information on Toplac''s durability and its application.

Thanks. Doug

WHOOSH 02-24-2004 10:54 AM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
Doug, that''s a good question and I''ll be interested in what is offered up, too. FWIW I can tell you that the newly relabeled Brightside and also Brightside get better reviews from the chandlers here in the UK than does Toplac. I don''t understand this, but the feedback has been about both difficulty in getting a smooth finish and I''ve wondered if wet/humid weather is what''s going on. You might keep that in mind, depending on where you live, but another fellow who posted here said that wasn''t his experience...so go figure.

sailnaway 03-30-2004 08:04 AM

Brightside VS. Easypoxy
 
I was just in Panama City Florida a couple of weeks ago. A guy was rolling on Imaron on a large boat and was doing some touch up of areas he had painted with another paint. All the work looked gteat and he did not yse the brush and roller and it went flat and had a gloss like it was sprayed. The humidity was real high as rain was moving in and temp was in the 70ies. I have painted a couple of boats and do not claim to be a painter but prep is important and fill everything Marine Tex or a suitable hard filler then with 3M colors red hard green medium blue soft fairing putty then high build primer to hide all the small scratches and paint it. If you are ever around the yacht painters you will hear them say I want to see some color on that spot. This is in refrence to the putty and sand fair layers of fairing putty that comes in tubes and is self drying. The finish looks like camo but red green and blue. The results are a fine finish I guess thats why they get the big bucks as all that sand and fair takes some time. If you don''t have the gouges I think the (High Build Primer) will do the trick. The colors of the fairing putty may not be correct read the tube or ask the paint store.


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