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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

Good lord.... that doesn't even qualify as patina... leave it alone!

However, you may want to test emory cloth or a very fine steel wool. You will probably have to stain everything if you want all to match.
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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

I still say that the only way to get a good answer is to have someone look at it in person that could tell you if there is going to be a problem staining it to match. Pictures can make things look far better than they are and sometimes worst.

As the others said that is a very nice looking boat and if this is the only question mark between buying or not buying then pay if you have to and have a cabinetmaker look at it.

I love the white cushions, but with me around they would be white for about a day

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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

What you are talking about is refinishing wood, not repairing laminate. Matching factory applied glossy finishes is hard, it often takes a lot of trial and error. I have done it before, but it takes patience. Getting a quote from a furniture restorer would be a start. The boat looks pretty new, so another option is to contact the maker and ask what they used. This may not be an exact match as color and gloss change with time and not all batches of stain etc are the same, but could be close enough.

Also, lots of "wood" on newer boats is a thin veneer over ply or MDF. You have to be very carefull working with it as it can ben damaged by too much sanding or stripping. The trim pieces should be solid, but the larger flat areas, like the nav station top, could be very thin.
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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

My new counter tops.
One 4X8 Formica sheet from a big box store.




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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

Now that we see your pics, and in light of the original question, I strongly recommend that you follow Kd3pc, and cupper3s advice and don't mess it up. Refinishing trim work like that is best left up to the pros.
For example, do you know that the pros find a brand new Badger Hair brush useless unless it is "broken in"!
That's openers.
BTW, I think that you have found yourself one fine boat.
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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

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Also, lots of "wood" on newer boats is a thin veneer over ply or MDF. You have to be very carefull working with it as it can ben damaged by too much sanding or stripping. The trim pieces should be solid, but the larger flat areas, like the nav station top, could be very thin.
Plywood I can understand, but MDF? That's scary. That stuff won't stand up in a humid environment for any length of time.

See manufacturers MDF manual here. If any boat manufacturer is using it, they should be outed now!
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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

That is a good point, I looked at a Beneteau recently and some of the cabinets did look like laminate or veneer over something that was not quite plywood, but I do not know if it was MDF. Do they have HDF, VHDF? Pressed compacted used wine casks?
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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

Any Beneteau I have worked on is veneer (thin) over plywood. The finish is hard to match though. The actual countertops are laminate - Formica or similar.
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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

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Good lord.... that doesn't even qualify as patina... leave it alone!

However, you may want to test emory cloth or a very fine steel wool. You will probably have to stain everything if you want all to match.
Cups, Cups, Cups - you know better - STEEL wool has NO place on a boat, ever, under any circumstances.

Unless you want it to look like it has chicken pox that is.
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Re: Seeking interior laminate advice

From what I could see in the pics, the damage looks relatively minor. I would try using a product like “Liquid Gold” or “Old English” that you can find at most grocery or home improvement stores. Teak oil could also be used, but it will stain any laminate it comes in contact with. All are oils that will help clean and recondition the wood. They will cause the scratches to darken and blend in more with the surrounding wood.

Use blue painters tape to mask off any laminate, moisten a rag with the oil, and just wipe the wood down. Easy, cheap, and you may well be satisfied with the results.
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