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Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

I am surprised the marine surveyor did not discover the evidence of the prior shoddy repair before you bought the boat. I suspect the prior impact itself would have left telltale signs of damage in the bilge, keel, bulkheads or elsewhere near the point of impact.

Scientific studies (conducted by the U.S. Navy, among others) have demonstrated that fiberglass loses very little strength as it ages, a bit more if repeatedly flexed. A boat your age should be no less resilient than a newer boat. C&Cs of that era are generally considered to be well-built boats.

Weird repairs and structural damage should be revealed by the marine survey, or, even before that, by your own close inspection prior to signing the contract.

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Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

With all this talk about whether it is or is not repairable, and who is or is not responsible, and who should or should not be sued, you haven't mentioned what exactly your insurance carrier has said. My suggestion, like others, would be to take any reasonable offer and chalk it up to experience.
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Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

Not defending the badly made repair but it does looks like a mast step repair job to me. I just had to do mine a month ago. C&C mast step on some hulls were made out of thin sheets of plywood sitting in the bilge water.
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Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

One other thing I am confused about. You refer to the helmsman as the skipper. Does whoever is steering the boat assume command of the vessel?

As far as I am concerned, I remain the captain of the vessel whether I am on the bow or behind the wheel. As such, I am ultimately responsible for all that happens while underway.

In your scenario, since your friend was the skipper, why isn't he responsible for all the damage?
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Not defending the badly made repair but it does looks like a mast step repair job to me. I just had to do mine a month ago. C&C mast step on some hulls were made out of thin sheets of plywood sitting in the bilge water.
That model was deck stepped I believe.
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That model was deck stepped I believe.
Yup. You're absolutely correct...
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Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

I would strongly urge you to reconsider taking any money from the insurance company, or even notifying them of the accident. You may find that once they pay off, they shortly there after drop your policy. You will then have a VERY tough time finding a new insurer.

I had a customer of mine have this happen to him. They paid him to fix the keel then promptly dropped his policy come renewal time. It took him a very long time to find a new policy, which is not as good, and it now costs him about 4X what he was paying for his first policy. It is one thing in a "no fault" claim, eg: someone hit you at the dock, mooring etc, lightning, unpredicted storm, etc. but when you hit a ledge they tend to not like to insure those types of "risks"...

Chalk this up to "new boatitus" and find a new one but without the insurance company... Something to consider.

Granite ledges in Maine don't move, but you'd not be the first to have tried...
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Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

The insurance carrier hasn't seen the boat yet ; they said on the phone they probably will "total" it but want to see it nevertheless - I'll know by monday. The difficulty of finding another insurance after that is one of my concerns indeed.
Agreed about granite ledges - at least, from now on, I will have more empathy for people who "try to move them" :-)
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I agree you should go after the surveyor and previous owner. Get your money back and have them pay for the disposal.
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Re: Repair of broken hull around keel stub

Seen on a Tee Shirt:

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