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cousineddy 09-25-2012 05:51 PM

Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
There is about 3 or 4 layers of antifouling paint on my boat. Its thin under the water line, but thick above it. I want to take it all off. Has anyone used paint remover to get this off? Will it work? What brand? Thanks!

misfits 09-25-2012 06:37 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
As crazy as this sounds, a straight razor blade in the holder/gizmo's you'd use to scrape paint off a window. Scraped the majority of bottom paint off my 28' & the P.O. had the stuff caked on. It didn't take everything off but sure to make the balance of the job easier.

Someone also had mentioned using a drywall sander & screen on the end of a wooden broom pole. Easier on the back & you're not covered in dust being under the boat.

cousineddy 09-25-2012 06:44 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
I was hoping to roll on some citris strip, then use the pressure washer to wash the old crappy paint off. Scraping seems like a lot of elbow grease. But, hey if thats the only way. Maybe I should rent a sand blaster?

sww914 09-25-2012 06:49 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
Don't rent a sand blaster. That job takes an expert. Even if it didn't, you don't want to do that job, ever. Citrus strip may do nothing, you'll have to test a small spot. You can still get real aircraft stripper at autobody supply stores or any industrial paint supply.

ccriders 09-25-2012 07:02 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
A few years ago I decided to use a soy based stripper instead of sanding/scraping. I needed to get all of the old pain off so that I could put on a barrier coat. The soy stripper would strip about one coat of old pain at a time, not the several layers advertised. So at that rate it would have been far too expensive to get down to the gelcoat. I eneded up sanding the last few layers which were very hard and well adhered to the gelcoat. One of the problems I encountered was that it turned very warm after I hauled the boat and the stripper would dry out before penetrating several layers of paint. If you have a nice overcast sky and less that 80-85 degrees I'm sure stripper will be more effective than in my experience.
Be careful with disc sanders and sharp scrapers with pointed corners as they easily gouge the gelcoat once you are through the paint. Also, they are very tedious in those complex compound curves around the rudder and keel. I would grind down the corners of any scraper I use in these areas.
Make sure the stripper you use is good for fiberglass and follow the directions carefully as many strippers have the potential to soften the gelcoat and maybe even the substrate.
Its a nasty job any way you go about it, but with stripper it is much easier to control what gets onto your skin and into your lungs.

delite 09-25-2012 07:29 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
Soon there will be a new stripper on the market. You paint it on, it works through the paint and separates it cleanly from the gel coat. This is environmentally benign and uses a patented biotechnology to separate the paint from the boat. Paint comes off in your hand in big sheets when you pull on it. It was demonstrated at the Miami boat show. They did a 60 ft boat in 6 hours. The other product (I dont recall the product) used on an identical boat took 3 days to strip. Not yet on the market. Note I do have a financial interest in this product.

We also have a bottom paint that that is environmentally benign and doesnt harm the animals. This is currently in testing with the US Army Corp of Engineers for use in controlling Zebra mussels in fresh water dams.

With any luck both products will be on the market within 2 years.

Sailormon6 09-25-2012 07:41 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
How big is the boat you're talking about?

I have stripped three boats, a 22, a 25, and a 35.

I stripped the 22 with an electric sander.

I stripped the 25 with a chemical stripper. Don't use the stuff you get in Lowes or Home Depot or discount stores, or house paint stores. It's much too aggressive, and will dissolve your gelcoat. Use Klean Strip paint stripper, which I believe is currently available from WM for about $29. gal. , as well as other suppliers. But, that particular variety of Klean Strip is hard to find anywhere other than a specialty store or online. The company makes different types of paint strippers. One customer evaluated it very poorly on the West site, but he wasn't using it for bottom paint. I have used it twice for antifouling, and it works, but you have to use it for the right kind of paint and you have to know how to apply it. The trick is to slather it over a large area, and then reapply it whenever it starts to dry out. Keep re-applying it, without scraping off the previous coat, until the paint softens underneath. By keeping it wet, you keep the chemical softening process going. When it's well-softened, scrape it off with a putty knife or scraper.

I stripped the 35 footer myself, and with the help of a pro. I had a professional strip all but the last 1-2 coats of old paint off the 35 footer with a power plane, and then I stripped the rest with Klean Strip. Trying to do a boat that size with chemical stripper was a bigger job than I cared to tackle.

msmith10 09-25-2012 09:14 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misfits (Post 926549)
Someone also had mentioned using a drywall sander & screen on the end of a wooden broom pole. Easier on the back & you're not covered in dust being under the boat.

Please note that if you do the drywall sander/screen, you wet the surface first. Wet a few feet down with a hose and wash out the screen frequently. Actually pretty fast and it's dust free that way.
I would NEVER dry sand a bottom again. I can still remember the taste of copper, not to mention the mess downwind.

SongBirdSkipper 09-25-2012 09:20 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
If you're thinking of dry sanding antifouling paint, be aware it is a serious irratant to eyes, sinuses and skin. A dust mask won't help, you'll need a respirator, a face shield and cover every inch of skin.

The marinas use a sandblaster, wearing a full paint suit with hood and respirator.

Good luck.

MikeOReilly 09-25-2012 09:35 PM

Re: Paint Remover for anti-fouling paint
 
We stripped about 25 years of old ablative paint off our Grampian 34 a few years ago. We started with a soy-based stripper, which did soften most of the layers. It worked well, but b/c we were working outside, we had to cover it with plastic wrap for 8-10 hours while it was "cooking." This was a challenge, but fairly easily doable.

After the allotted time we pealed off the plastic to reveal a soft gunky slop which easily scrapped off. This we scrapped onto plastic sheets. What was left was a thin layer (streaks really) of bottom paint which we then sanded down with an orbital sander.

The stripper worked OK, but in the end I reverted to simply using a big paint scrapper, and then finishing with the orbital sander. The stripper probably required less elbow-grease, but in the end I'm not sure if it's any easier than scrapper and sanding.


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