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Roller Furling failure .

Well, we finally got out this year after some bottom paint and small items knocked off my list. Sunday was beautiful until the roller furling got jammed up...no big deal..we can fix this. Well a very small halyard had become tangled at the very top and didn't see it initially. End result..I lowered the whole system. I tried to just lower the sail but the whole system was lowered instead. As the roller furling spine came down the spine broke in three places. It broke at the connecting pieces. Each piece is about 6 feet in length and with connector pieces in place it makes up the whole spine of about 60 feet.
Now that I have thoroughly confused you..they don't make this model anymore and was trying to locate these connector pieces with no luck so far.
I called the experts at Harken and they stated these systems are no longer in production. So....Option 1 - find these pieces, Option 2, buy/trade a used system, Option 3 - sell a kidney on the black market and get a new roller furling. I know there are many manufactures out there. Any thoughts ? Recommendations ??
Its for a 35.5 Endeavour. Thanks in advance !!
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When in doubt, hank-it-on baby

Just messing. I don't have any useful advice.

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Re: Roller Furling failure .

Try http://www.baconsails.biz/ for used parts.

Don't just shop the online part - call them as they have thousands of things not listed online.

They also have complete furling systems, used and new.

Best part, it's only 1.5 hours out of D.C., or they will ship.

no affiliation on my part, just loads of good service from them
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Re: Roller Furling failure .

The usual reason for a halyard wrap at the top is the lack of a halyard retainer block. The Harken installation manual for my cruising furler mentions the installation of a halyard retainer if the angle between halyard and furler is less than a certain angle.

I suffered a dreadful wrap and a jammed furler, and had to have a retainer retrofitted. Wouldn't have been necessary if the yard that installed the furler had read the instructions.

PS, very happy with the Harken Cruising furler now it has a restrainer! A 7402 ratchet block for the control line is another item that makes life easier.

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Re: Roller Furling failure .

I don't know if I would want a furler that could cause a halyard wrap.

We needed to replace our very old Famet furling and were looking for a similar replacement that was a simple design, easy installation and reasonable cost. We chose an Alado A4.

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Re: Roller Furling failure .

Thank you all for your responses !! You all are awesome. Chuckles, just got off the phone with the peeps at Bacon sails....wow they are awesome. Very knowledgeable folks. I think we might have a solution now. Mark, I think we might be going with the cruising set up. Thank you all again !!
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Re: Roller Furling failure .

My furler cost me around $100 and has no way of getting a halyard wrap.It has had no failures in the 28 years I've been using it, nor do I know anyone else who has had one fail ,in the last 30 years since I designed it. One moving part, a one piece unit. No connections to break. Build your own furler.
It is similar to the Famet, and Simplicite rig.

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Re: Roller Furling failure .

Chuckles beat me to the punch. Bacon is your best resource, Great people to deal with and they have many used parts. My wife often drops me off there for a few hours when she shops in Annapolis as I love to poke around in the back there. Put a restrainer on this time also.

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Re: Roller Furling failure .

Look at the joints. The first Harken held the extrusions on to the joint pieces with black plastic tabs, lock tight and a roll pin that went through the extrusion and connector from side to side one above and one below. If you have this system there are indeed absolutely no replacement parts. If the extrusions were held on by 2 (3, depending on size) screws in to the connector from the side opposite the grooves you may have a chance but you will have to identify wether it is a Mark I (no identifiers on the unit, or a mark II, which is usually identified on the drum) You won't find the parts available from Harken direct but you may be able to scrounge them from various riggers. The extrusions and connectors came in a pre-packaged kit with a given number of extrusions, often more than was necessary for a given installation so the rigger would keep the extras for replacements. In the end you need to talk to a rigger that sold a lot of Harkens to help identify it. Most riggers have a preference for one furler over the other and like to keep selling that furler primarily.
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