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Re: slightly soft floor remedies

The only place the fiberglass lays over the sole is the port settee, and thats only a small amount. Otherwise the floor sits in a pocket created by the fiberglass from what I see in the other sections. The tricky pasrts wil be the area around the keel stepped mast and cutting the bilge boards so they fit in and are held in place.

I will be doing this work while she is in the water.

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Re: slightly soft floor remedies

I had the same issue with my C&C 30 MK1. I ended up replacing the entire cabin sole since it was mostly rotted. I bought T&H plywood from Exotic Lumber and used the old sole as template. I opted not to varnish it and instead put on tung oil. Looks great and not slippery when wet.
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Re: slightly soft floor remedies

When you start talking about the sole being "soft" there are no "quick and easy" fixes. Rot is best thought of as cancer. Sure, you can choose not to treat cancer, but that never ends well, nor will the rot in the sole of your boat. And if you're not 100% sure, it's always worse than you hope it is. While it may be quite a bit of work, it's not rocket science and anyone with a small amount of do-ability can tackle and complete the repair.

The boat has stringers that you really need to inspect by drilling samples. If the "sawdust" that comes out of those test holes is anything outside of bone dry, then the stringers have got to be replaced as well. You in the structural integrity part of the boat and there have been plenty boats sink because of ignored rot.

Putting a layer of good wood down over a layer of bad wood is absolutely a waste of time and money. It's no different than choosing to wear a ball cap over the skin cancer the doctor found on your head. Sure, the person looking at you may only see the cap, however, the problem is still there, but now a little harder to get at.
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Re: slightly soft floor remedies

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I am sure there has been lots of chat regarding soft floors in 1970s era sailboats, in the 20-35 foot range

I have an old C & C in super shape
the central wood panel that covers the bilge has a slight soft floor
around it, not bowing, just a bit soft
any magic cures?
one idea was to inject some construction filler/adhesive...
or a big no no?

years ago we used this foaming yellow sealant for a rough opening
in new construction, I remember the stuff has to be dealt with care as it
expands, the name escapes me & it came in a can with a tube

anyhow, any thoughts are appreciated
You are thinking of Gorilla glue, just the right stuff.
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I've got got a two word answer for you: Shag carpet.
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Re: slightly soft floor remedies

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My winter project is to replace the sole on our C&C 35MKIII. It has about 7 different sections to it. The floor is screwed down on the horizontal stringers and longitudinal ribs.It can be taken up easily.
Dave, I'd really like to know who you go to, and how it goes. I'm in your general area and our semi-rotten sole has been on my list for several years. If I thought I could get someone competent to do the cutting for me I'd probably go in that direction. I'd rather not repeat last year's comedy where I drove home from Exotic Lumber with a 4 x 8 sheet of 1/4" teak plywood strapped to my V dub, but I'll do what I have to.
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Dave, I'd really like to know who you go to, and how it goes. I'm in your general area and our semi-rotten sole has been on my list for several years. If I thought I could get someone competent to do the cutting for me I'd probably go in that direction. I'd rather not repeat last year's comedy where I drove home from Exotic Lumber with a 4 x 8 sheet of 1/4" teak plywood strapped to my V dub, but I'll do what I have to.
Cutting the soles is an easy task. I used a combination of a circular saw for straight cuts and a Bosch jig saw for others. A large plumb level was my guide. It really didn't take that long...
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Re: slightly soft floor remedies

The best tool ever for cutting new soles is a router with a flush trim bit. A router table works even better, but if you don't like wood working can be an expensive investment. Do the rough cuts to general dimensions with a jig saw, and a flush trim bit with the old piece (template) clamped to the new board.

The flush trim bit will follow the edge of the template, and give you a piece that is exactly the same.
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Re: slightly soft floor remedies

Dave, as much as I like the aesthetics of teak and holly (OK, really, I think anything else just doesn't belong in a boat) you might want to look around for alternatives. Someone used to make honeycomb panels, a hollowcore honeycomb of impervious material skinned on both sides so it looks like 3/4" plywood but weighs less than half as much. You know, get the dead weight out of the boat, eliminate any questions of rot, look into newer materials and maybe make it better than new?
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Re: slightly soft floor remedies

There are a lot of other materials out there, from carbon sandwich sheets, to honeycomb stuff. But for anything with even close to the stiffness of plywood expect to pay much more. Frankly, unless you already have poped for a carbon rig, composite rigging, and 3dl/carbon sails this is a poor allocation of money. The weight is too low in the boat for it to be worth the dollars.
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