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Re: Jib furler is hard to furl since putting up new sail...ideas?

If halyard wrap doesn't cover the proplem the next thing to look at is halyard tension, if it's loose it can cause binding along the foil.

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Thx guys. I was thinking that. So basically move that sail up. Makes ALOT of sense. I'll try that this week.

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Re: Jib furler is hard to furl since putting up new sail...ideas?

You got some good replies. I'll take it a step further;
1. Release the tack and raise the sail to the top. If it furls easy you can choose to add a short penant to the head or foot of the sail. Many people choose to have one made of wire, but, modern low stretch braided rope will work well. If the it's only a few inches, make it yourself out of rope and attach it to the foot where you can see it. Might even give you a little bit extra visibility under the jib.
2. Play with the halyard tension. Too loose is bad and may cause wrap as others have suggested, but depending on the system, sometimes too tight will bind things up as well.
3. When you first try to furl, do it from the bow pulling directly on the line, avoiding any other hardware. This will help figure out if it's something in the deck hardware as someone else mentioned.
4. Try it on a windless day with a cold beer for best results.
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Re: Jib furler is hard to furl since putting up new sail...ideas?

Ditto on halyard wrap.. you'll either need a halyard restrainer, or add a pennant to the sail so that the swivel is back to full hoist.

If that's not it, I'd think there will be some considerable difference in how a beat up, worn out lightweight sail rolls up compared to a new, stiff, UV covered one...

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Ok. I'll move the sail to full hoist. I tightened the halyard pretty tight. Before I did that I have halyard wrap. So I bet I got it just tight enough to be usable but not easily. Getting it back to full hoist will make alot of things better. What do I need to make that pennant?

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Re: Jib furler is hard to furl since putting up new sail...ideas?

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.....What do I need to make that pennant?
The pennant could be a wire strop with eyes at each end, or nowadays you could use dyneema (your deck will appreciate it) in a similar fashion. Keep in mind you can add the pennant to the head or the tack... either will move the swivel up. If you add it to the tack then your visibility forward will improve with the sail raised a bit..

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Just checked my original sail dimensions and the luff is only shorter by a few inches. So not 6. More like 2-3. So get a short piece of dyneema and eyes put in the end? Raise the sail a few inches. I was going to ask about doing this for other reasons anyway. So this works for me.

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Re: Jib furler is hard to furl since putting up new sail...ideas?

Just a few inches?? Not sure that that will be your problem then, but you'll need to have a look at the hoisted sail to see the true actual distance left between swivel and sheave (and it's difficult to judge from the dock or the deck)

Halyard wrap is more likely if it's a foot or more between swivel and sheave.

In any event the pennant won't hurt as long as it doesn't end up too long...

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I'm not at he boat. Personally I thought it was more than that. I'm just looking at notes on my phone and they could be wrong. I'm going to hoist it all the way up and see how different it is to furl. I'm still betting that's it since it wasn't this difficult on the old sail. It also wouldn't furl when I didn't tighten the halyard extremely tight. I thought it was a heavier sail and thick uv cover. But it's thought to move initially. Very very tough.

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I'll use dyneema and splice eyes in it. I was going to do lifelines in dyneema soon anyway.

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