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Beware the Pins in Your Mainsheet Blocks!

Yesterday we went for a sail and had a bright sunny day in the low 80's with north easterly winds in the 18 to 20 knot range. While hard sheeted on a very tight reach toward the Skyway Bridge, our main sheet suddenly slackened leaving the sail luffing violently. Inspection revealed that the pin through the becket that secures the dead end of our sheet to the double fiddle block on our main sheet traveler had disappeared, releasing the sheet and allowing it to run out, over the block at the boom and back down to the upper sheave in the fiddle block. (Fortunately, the eye-splice on the dead end of the sheet was a bit too large to be pulled entirely through the block, but the sheet did jamb there quite firmly.) Climbing on deck--our main sheet traveler is amidships forward of our dodger-- after my wife headed up, low and behold I discovered the pin from the becket laying on the deck in front of the traveler sans cotter pin. Fortunately we have a box of odds'n ends at the nav table and I was able to find a properly sized cotter ring that allowed me to secure the pin once I had extracted the sheet end and re-led it through the block on the underside of the boom. With this we resumed our sail and finally headed for home.

Today I will clean and reset all of the blocks on the boom and elsewhere aboard and pay particular attention to the cotter pins holding things together which one tends to forget--until they disappear of course. I thought other might appreciate a "heads up".

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Re: Beware the Pins in Your Mainsheet Blocks!

A timely reminder that its always worthwhile to inspect our fittings, etc., when time permits in order to avoid the WTF! experiences.
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Re: Beware the Pins in Your Mainsheet Blocks!

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Yesterday we went for a sail and had a bright sunny day in the low 80's with north easterly winds in the 18 to 20 knot range. While hard sheeted on a very tight reach toward the Skyway Bridge, our main sheet suddenly slackened leaving the sail luffing violently. Inspection revealed that the pin through the becket that secures the dead end of our sheet to the double fiddle block on our main sheet traveler had disappeared, releasing the sheet and allowing it to run out, over the block at the boom and back down to the upper sheave in the fiddle block. (Fortunately, the eye-splice on the dead end of the sheet was a bit too large to be pulled entirely through the block, but the sheet did jamb there quite firmly.) Climbing on deck--our main sheet traveler is amidships forward of our dodger-- after my wife headed up, low and behold I discovered the pin from the becket laying on the deck in front of the traveler sans cotter pin. Fortunately we have a box of odds'n ends at the nav table and I was able to find a properly sized cotter ring that allowed me to secure the pin once I had extracted the sheet end and re-led it through the block on the underside of the boom. With this we resumed our sail and finally headed for home.

Today I will clean and reset all of the blocks on the boom and elsewhere aboard and pay particular attention to the cotter pins holding things together which one tends to forget--until they disappear of course. I thought other might appreciate a "heads up". FWIW...
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Re: Beware the Pins in Your Mainsheet Blocks!

I build all my own blocks for less than $2 each, with 3/8ths bolts for pins, far better blocks than any commercially made ones.
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Follow Up...

I contacted Garhaurer regarding the failure/loss of the cotter-ring that led to the loss of the pin and thimble on the becket of our Series 40-02 AS fiddle block and "Guido", in manufacturing, could not have been more apologetic. The Company is sending the necessary replacement parts to us, via UPS, without charge.

Note that I have known the Felgenhaurer's--Bob, Mary and their son Mark, the owners of Garhaurer--for 20+ years (although Guido was unaware of that when we spoke) and I do not know of a marine equipment manufacturer that offers anywhere near the quality of Garhaurer's equipment at anywhere near the price. I could not obtain the parts needed to build a comparable double fiddle block for anywhere near the price they charge for the complete unit. Some complain that Garhaurer's equipment is too "industrial" looking compared to Harken, Schafer and/or some of the other manufacturers. In fact, however, Garhaurer observes a "Form follows function" mentality and incorporates ease of manufacturing/repair into the design of its components. Accordingly, they "work" and when there is a malfunction--which is rare--they are pretty easily repaired. Considering how we've beaten up their gear over the years with few difficulties, I am happy to recommend the Company to others.

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Re: Beware the Pins in Your Mainsheet Blocks!

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I build all my own blocks for less than $2 each, with 3/8ths bolts for pins, far better blocks than any commercially made ones.
could you post pics of the blocks you make im very intrested in how you make them and would like to see what they look like.
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Re: Follow Up...

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Garhaurer observes a "Form follows function" mentality and incorporates ease of manufacturing/repair into the design of its components. Accordingly, they "work" and when there is a malfunction--which is rare--they are pretty easily repaired. Considering how we've beaten up their gear over the years with few difficulties, I am happy to recommend the Company to others.

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I second your recommendation. I've been very happy with the quality and value of Garhauer stuff.
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Some complain that Garhaurer's equipment is too "industrial" looking compared to Harken, Schafer and/or some of the other manufacturers.
I've always thought Harken gear looked kind of cheap, even toylike myself. I'll take the industrial strength look anytime.
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Re: Beware the Pins in Your Mainsheet Blocks!

For the loss of a pin. I was 30 miles off Oregon in 15 ft following seas,and 25 to 30 knots .Standing on the windshield roof of a Mapleleaf 42. Boom in my belly furling the mainsail. Pin holding mainsheet block to aft cabin roof fell out and I went out to slam into the port shrouds On the next yaw I stepped gracefully onto the deck and retrieved the pin.Later on ,after turning about in the surf and exploring Blunt's reef in the fog I realized I was gaining priceless experience. As an aside I made the blocks for Thanes rig My record was 9 singles in one night. 2 1/2 bronze sheave running dumb on 1/2 inch SS pins held by tu'pence coins in teak shell and 1/4 x 1 inch thru strop. Been 35 years and never a squeak They started life as an old teak table from a dumpster and a chunk of shaft from a fish boat.Cost about a buck and four pence each. Too strong n'ver broke.
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Re: Beware the Pins in Your Mainsheet Blocks!

Got to Bermuda in this year's race. Tidying up the boat at the dock afterwards one of the guys noticed that the pin on the shackle holding one of the blocks for the mainsheet was JUST BARELY threaded. As in 1.5 more turns and it would have come out. Considering that 80+ hours of our 88 hours underway was in 18-25 knots of wind that would NOT have been a good thing.
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