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I'm convinced, now I just have to remove the non-functioning 'full' msd system, convert the holding tanks to lockers and install a c head.
It's the first step I'm kinda having trouble with getting started on.
Is there a neutralizer I can add to my holding tank to help knock down any potential odor and avoid upsetting my neighbors? With the engine removed, it's kinda hard to get the boat to a pump out station.
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Re: Air Head Composting Toilet or Similar Mfg.

We love our Airhead composting toilet and would never go back to a regular pump/holding tank system. Nasty!

One thing we did in preparation of removing our old system is to have our ducks in a row...rags handy and duck tape handy. Lift a hose off a connection, stuff it with a rag and duck tape it. Having a game plan meant we had no spillage. Except for the very lowest hose that was connected to the back lower portion of the commode. But, that was basically water...since we had pumped out the holding tank, and ran water thru all hoses and pipes and pumped again, before starting the project.

Also, if you can, have two people there to do the job. After stuffing and taping both ends of a hose, you still have to get it out of there. And you may have a 6' long piece. I pulled from one end while my hubs pushed from the other. Team work was very much needed, and appreciated, in the removal of the hoses.
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Re: Air Head Composting Toilet or Similar Mfg.

I am a poor sailor and most of my upgrades are "hand me downs" from rich sailors that wanted "the latest greatest"....also I very rarely (especially for expensive boat gadgets) pay retail...but a composting head is something I was willing to bite the bullet on and pay full price. Just so happens a friend of mine bought an Air-head and tried to use it on land with 3 people, that plus several other things made kept it from working properly....so he gave it to me.
What I am trying to say is it's wort it.....and is one of the few things where the "marine" version is cheaper than the land version.

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...since we had pumped out the holding tank, and ran water thru all hoses and pipes and pumped again, before starting the project.
Thanks for the input, I just need to convince the Admiral she should be around for this little endeavor, especially if we empty the very full holding using the manual bilge pump and bucket method. The hardest part, getting it to a pump out station is why this project has not been started.
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Re: Air Head Composting Toilet or Similar Mfg.

There's a non-composting waterless toilet that claims to be odor free and does let you wrap it up and throw it away, in much the same manner as baby diapers can be contained and disposed of. Its called the Dry Flush (www dot dry-flush dot com/ ) and boaters are said to have been buying them. I'd like to hear about its merits and demerits from any boater who's had experience with it.
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Re: Air Head Composting Toilet or Similar Mfg.

So after a LONG process, we will not be going with AirHead and will never recommend them to anyone we know. Below is an email thread between the owner of Airhead and us.
TLDR: Terrible customer service. Refused to fix faulty toilet. Extremely unprofessional. Still think a great product but would NEVER buy from them again.

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So needless to say we will not be doing business with Airhead ever again. I truly have never experienced such a lack of customer service and had someone take a faulty unit so personally. We still think the unit is a great product, but if anything ever goes wrong... No way!


Edit by tdw ..... there is dispute between the parties over the relevent facts. From information sent to us by AirHead (Trott) we can only conclude that while there may well be fault on both sides SVFormosa41's claims are very much open to question. somewhat exagerated and/or SVF is cherry picking the posted comments. . Other than SVF's actual complaint large parts of his posts have therefore been edited out.

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Re: Air Head Composting Toilet or Similar Mfg.

Oh, dear! What an extremely odd way to respond to a disgruntled customer... I hope Mr. Trott isn't suffering from some sort of poor health or neurological malfunction, because it seems otherwise inexplicable that a reputable manufacturer who values his good name would respond in such a peculiar fashion. Rudeness may be satisfying in the short run, but it is mighty hard on business in the long run.

FWIW, we remain pleased with our C-Head, and are now quite relieved that we made the choice we did.
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Re: Air Head Composting Toilet or Similar Mfg.

I honestly still think the AirHead is a great product! My parents and three other friends love them! But the customer service is enough to never do business with them again IMO.
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Re: Air Head Composting Toilet or Similar Mfg.

Some people have anchors but never use them and are afraid to use them. Some people sail for decades and never use their anchors. Heads are somewhat like that.

I have used boats with composting heads. They make me feel somewhat uncomfortable, but I can't offer a rational reason why they do.

The problem I find is people who haven't used them, won't use them. The men pee over the side, and hold their poop, the women cross there legs and ask to stop ashore. Women, in particular, never want to come back. So it turns a yacht into a day sailor and turns people off to sailing.

Meanwhile, people (guests) don't seem to mind using a traditional head.

My preference is an electric or vacu-flush head, that a charter guest can use by pressing a button and requires the intelligence of a monkey to use. Perfect for kids who leave a pile of poop and never flush.

Newbies often get confused on how to use a traditional head with the wet and dry lever. Even people who have sailed for years on a smaller boat, are unsure what to do because they have no experience using a head. I recently taught a woman of 47 and a man of 72 how to use a head, and each took notes on this!

What do I use? I have two big Groco's with a 2.5" piston and a big easy to use long handle lever instead of a lame T handle style. It will flush a raincoat, so it handles fossilized rock hard poop and sanitary products easily.

Odor? Many heads stink out of the vent because people over fill them. I flush mine 2-3 times every pump out and never let them get overfilled. I put in de-oderizer, and a bit of oil from time to time. I change the hoses periodically to avoid the crystalline deposits. If your holding tanks are above the waterline, they will self drain offshore in a seaway--they work well IMHO. I see no reason to change.
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Re: Air Head Composting Toilet or Similar Mfg.

The big one-button big-flush head sounds like a good solution for a very large (extra weight and complexity no problem) craft that caters to the country club charter crowd. It is probably especially good if you have paid crew in charge of all the less appealing disposal and repair chores. If I were in your Topsiders I would make exactly the same decision, Cap'n.

As it is, our choices were limited by not only weight and complexity, but convenience, space, and time to devote to the least interesting aspect of overnight boating. We had picked out an electric head, with all the extra equipment, pump, water supply, chemicals, and behind-the-scenes effort it required, all nicey-nice whoosh, all-gone! technology, when our state politicians passed a no-treat-and-dump, even in wide-open water, law, and a pump-out log requirement. It was the smallest of straws, but that was it. As the poor dear in the viral video lamented, "Ain't nobody got time fo' dat."

The desiccating type head surely isn't for everyone, but so far, all of our guests have dealt with our low-tech solution with courage, flexibility, common sense and maturity, and most blessedly, without comment. (We have had the pleasure of choosing excellent friends!) Better yet, I haven't had to learn how to disentangle a macerator, worry about holding tank capacity far from the nearest working pumpout station, or replacing stinky hoses. If I can tolerate cleaning my kitten's litter box, tending to this C-Head is a considerably less obnoxious chore.
Finally, it occurs to me that well-kept composting heads are lots nicer than those ubiquitous portapotties lined up at outdoor events, which the masses seem to use without any difficulty or emotional scarring. Obviously, the luxury crowd avoids fairgrounds, air shows, campgrounds, and other low-class venues. The bathrooms at the polo grounds are solid carved marble, dahling.
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