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Tiller Pilot

Looking for an auto pilot for my tiller steered boat...PY26@ 6,500-6,800# (depending on who you ask)..

The Raymarine ST 1000 is good to 6,600# and I'm right near that limit, and the ST2000 goes to 10,000# definetly within the limit...

The ST1000s are available "used" for $200 most of the time...$400 new...ST2000 $480 new...(haven't seen any used..)

So... If the ST1000 is strong enough for my boat, I'd prefer used, unless they take such a beating I would want "new/warranty"...in which case for $80 more I'd get the ST2000...

So the frugal sailor question is.... New, used, or go big...?
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Re: Tiller Pilot

Also, I'd like to mount it rearward, toward the transom, so won't have as much "leverage" as it would out near the handhold...

Will that make a difference powerwise or sensitivity wise..?
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Re: Tiller Pilot

I have a used 1000 for my Tartan 27. Works great. The T 27 is known for it's balance under sail, so the tiller pilot doesn't work too hard. Having said that, it's usually better to go up one size. If your just tooling around and don't have big plans, you're probably ok with the 1000.
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I have a st1000 on my 28 foot boat. My disp is around 6300#'s. it works fine. I think one of the main determining factors would be how much force can act on your tiller. On my old Catalina 27 before upgrading the rudder I would have never been able to use a ST1000. My current boat has a very light feel on the tiller if at all.
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Re: Tiller Pilot

Tiller "feels" light, but I built it 6" longer than stock...But if I mount the AP rearward (closer to hinge point) it'll take a bit more "umph" to move it...

The other concideration is "sensitivity".. The 2000 has "reciprocating ball" movement which sounds smooth...

Does anyone know if the 1000 uses balls or belt for rod movement...?
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Re: Tiller Pilot

I think the T2000 is faster as well. All-in-all, I would pick the 2000 for your boat, I'd probably pick it for mine too simply because it will steer quicker, I'm way under the displacement for the 1000 model.
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Re: Tiller Pilot

I use a ST1000 for my Pearson 28, which displaces 7850#. It works fine attached to a short emergency tiller about 18" from the rudder post.
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Re: Tiller Pilot

You may also want to look at the Simrad TP10. Simrad is a little less expensive, and I haven't heard much bad about them.

I'm investigating tiller pilots myself. I'll be stuck with an ST2000 or TP22 at a minimum...

Here's a direct comparison in Practical Sailor... Raymarine vs. Simrad
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Re: Tiller Pilot

Given what you've said Squidd, I would personally go with the 2000. Given your description of being close to the max. displacement, plus wanting to mount it closer to the pivot point, both would lead me to go bigger. But $$$ may dictate otherwise.

I went through the tiller pilot purchase recently, and with one season under our belt I can say I am very pleased with our Raymarine pilot. It appears robust, and response speeds are adequate for most conditions. That said, ours is the largest Raymarine tiller pilot (X-5 GP), so this may not be a useful comparison.
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