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Cetol teak cockpit seats or not?

I am in the process of painting the cockpit of my boat and I am removing the teak (actually Arariba, but it's like teak) seat cover panels. I have always just let them go grey and every once in a while spruced them up with a bit of soap, oxalic acid and a brush. Since everything is going to be nice and new on deck, I thought I might try sanding the wood and applying Cetol to have nice yellow glossy wood. I have a few doubts though...

1) Does Cetol go "cloudy" over time in the sun? (I ask because I saw windows done with Cetol that went "milky" in a few years)

2) Can I sand it off without too much trouble and go back to grey teak if I change my mind later?

3) What is the maintenance schedule (re-applying or sanding and re-applying) in the tropics?

If anyone has done their cockpit seats with Cetol, please let me know your impressions and results.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Cetol teak cockpit seats or not?

Take a look at Semco, I put it on teak decks and was very happy with it. I think Cetol could be hot to sit on and slippery.
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Re: Cetol teak cockpit seats or not?

Semco looks good, but it doesn't seem to be available in Brazil....
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Re: Cetol teak cockpit seats or not?

Personally I would not put Cetol on seats algee said it, hot and slippery. Also surprisingly fragile. And for seating, personally I like the color of weathered wood!

1) The modern formulations of cetol have much better longevity and appearance than the original orange muck. However, like any finish, it will have a finite life - perhaps 5 years in the tropics? (Pure guess, no direct experience of extended tropical trips!!)

2) AFAIK a heat gun is the recommended way to remove cetol. It would be difficult to sand.

3) I don't know about the tropics, but in California a scrub with a scouring pad and a couple of coats of clear cetol once a year is the minimum. However, don't limit it to that - learn from my mistakes - keep an eye open for dings and touch them up ASAP, or they turn into stains and you can't get the consistent color back. It has been suggested that an old nail varnish is perfect for this, containing both brush and a small amount of cetol.
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Re: Cetol teak cockpit seats or not?

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I am in the process of painting the cockpit of my boat and I am removing the teak (actually Arariba, but it's like teak) seat cover panels. I have always just let them go grey and every once in a while spruced them up with a bit of soap, oxalic acid and a brush. Since everything is going to be nice and new on deck, I thought I might try sanding the wood and applying Cetol to have nice yellow glossy wood. I have a few doubts though...

1) Does Cetol go "cloudy" over time in the sun? (I ask because I saw windows done with Cetol that went "milky" in a few years)

2) Can I sand it off without too much trouble and go back to grey teak if I change my mind later?

3) What is the maintenance schedule (re-applying or sanding and re-applying) in the tropics?

If anyone has done their cockpit seats with Cetol, please let me know your impressions and results.

Thanks in advance!
When we purchased our yacht the prior owner had Cetol'd the cockpit teak. It did not wear particularly well and it was slippery as ice when it was wet. And, it was the dickens to remove without damaging the underlying wood/caulking.

Since then we have used Starbrite Teak Oil Sealer, which we renew at roughly 6 month intervals. It looks good and the seats are not slippery when wet.

FWIW...
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Re: Cetol teak cockpit seats or not?

Thanks for the tips. So Cetol is not the solution then. The problem here is that I can't find the alternative products you have in the US like Semco and Starbrite. Any more "generic" products I should consider? Thanks!
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I'm thinking of going with Tung oil to finish the wood. Tung oil seems to be the main ingredient in teak sealers. Any reason why I shouldn't??
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I'm thinking of going with Tung oil to finish the wood. Tung oil seems to be the main ingredient in teak sealers. Any reason why I shouldn't??
Copa--Unfortunately, I am not sufficiently acquainted with Tung Oil to offer a meaningful/useful opinion. In past, however, I have used Brazilian Lemon Oil (imported from Brazil no less) for treating teak woodwork to reasonably good advantage although, it the weather, it is not a long lived as the Starbright I mentioned earlier. (That, however, may just be due to the addition of UV Protection). N'any case, you have nothing to loose by giving it a try.

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Re: Cetol teak cockpit seats or not?

Thanks HyLite. I've just ordered a liter of Tung oil and I'll give it a try. The distributor's site has some "how-to" videos that indicate the product is quite effective on outdoor wood (they use teak decks for the video). I'll post pics after I finish the wood. BTW, I've been looking for lemon oil in Brazil and I can't find the stuff! Do you remember the brand you bought? It's great stuff for interior wood.
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Thanks HyLite. I've just ordered a liter of Tung oil and I'll give it a try. The distributor's site has some "how-to" videos that indicate the product is quite effective on outdoor wood (they use teak decks for the video). I'll post pics after I finish the wood. BTW, I've been looking for lemon oil in Brazil and I can't find the stuff! Do you remember the brand you bought? It's great stuff for interior wood.
Unfortunately, the label on our bottle is pretty deteriorated. It is a clear plastic bottle bearing the label "Amazon Brazilian Lemon Oil". On the bottom of the label in very small typeface is the note "Product of Brazil". It is very effective but I use it sparingly as I've only got less than 1/2 ltr remaining. It does polish up nicely and has a clean scent. I can't imagine that you shouldn't be able to find it, or something equivalent, where you are.

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