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Re: looking for dinghy/tender ideas

On my 28' sailboat, I wrassled with this same problem and tried every possible type of dinghy, inflatable, inflatable kayak, rigid dinghy, home built nesting dinghy, etc. Finally found an 8' porta-bote for $250. Very worn but once I replaced some of the hardware it works very well. It is carried beside the lifelines. It is lightweight and can be easily assembled on the small foredeck. It is light enough to be easily pulled aboard without using the halyard. It rows well. It carries three men.
The homebuilt nesting 2-paw 9 was great but heavy. It was hard to assemble on deck, It obstructed the view forward when nested on deck.
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Re: looking for dinghy/tender ideas

That brings up another advantage of kayaks. They're so narrow that they're easy to store on the deck so you can leave them inflated. Of course of you're doing some sailing into the wind with a lot of tacks it might get in the way. In that case it can be towed.
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Re: looking for dinghy/tender ideas

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That brings up another advantage of kayaks. They're so narrow that they're easy to store on the deck so you can leave them inflated. Of course of you're doing some sailing into the wind with a lot of tacks it might get in the way. In that case it can be towed.
Various options here.. Kayaks can be stored in deck in a way that doesn't interfere with jibsheets, (above a certain boat length, anyway) and if you have roller furling there's usually little need to go forward so the obstruction on deck isn't an issue.

This is how we carry them nowadays:





Gerhauer makes some simple outboard kayak racks to hang them off the outside of the lifelines, the brackets swivel flush for docking and mount on the bottom of two stanchions. These do need to be located with an eye to keeping them out of the water when heeled (so not at max beam)

We have occasionally towed our (rigid plastic) kayaks but find that they seem to randomly flip on occasion, and when they do that's a lot of drag and a bit awkward to right once it's half flooded. Our most successful towing was to tow them close behind a towed inflatable dinghy, one off each pontoon.

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Re: looking for dinghy/tender ideas

We have faced the same problem on our 30ft boat. After trying the rigid dink, hard and inflatable yaks, we ended up with a used avon redcrest. It is made out of hypalon, stonger, lighter and much more UV resistant than most other inflatables. The lack of rowing speed is an issue, but that is more than offset by the benefits for us. It is light enough for one person to lift aboard, and can be half deflated and put over the front of the cabin house. Fully deflated it fits in about 1/2 of a quarter berth. It inflates very quick with the foot pump included with the dingy, I have never felt the need to use a powered air pump. It is a bear to get into it's storage bag, we usually do that on the dock. It also tows ok for shorter distances. I also looked at an achllles LT2 or LT4, similar hypalon models but more availabe in our area.

Like you our boat does not have a swim step so ketting in and out of the inflatable is much easyer than the rigid dink. Getting in and out of a kayak from a sailboat using only the boarding ladder is a real trial and almost impossible in chop.
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Re: looking for dinghy/tender ideas

I had an inflatable, roll up dink for ages. It was second hand when I got it, and finally did nearly two circumnavigation a before it died in the butt, totally and utterly.

The best bit was it really could roll up into nothing and be stowed in a lazarette or on deck. The electric pump whoofed it up in seconds and it was good with a 3.3hp donk on it.

Problem with kayaks and sailing dinks is you can't thrown a load of shopping in them. When I provision for a passage there might be $600 of groceries. You need a propper dink for that not a kayak!

The inflatable floor jobbies are even better.

Remember they won't last as long as a hard bottom... Just 1 1/2 circumnavigations!


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Re: looking for dinghy/tender ideas

Like Baboon, I am a fan of the old Avon Redcrest. I have a 1976 with inflatable seat and a removable motor bracket (no hard floor) that is still serving well as a second denghy. I got it used in 1982 and carried it aboard in a locker for years. Initially it was my main dink, then we got a hard sailing dinghy that was towed and the Avon went into a locker. It was still the only dink I carried when out overnight or longer runs like Cape Cod to eastern Maine when I didn't want anything towed (my wife would bring the sailing dink on car roof - long story). In any case, these are very long lived although I don't know about coral. Mine has survived three sons in great shape. There are still a number of them in the Virgin Islands, i know. Mine is still in back-up service today, and has never had a leak.

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