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How to run these traveler lines aft.

I would like to run my traveler lines aft, closer to the wheel. It's a pain to adjust them, I can't reach them without climbing around the wheel and they tend to pop out of those clam cleats.

I just don't know the best way to get them closer to the wheel.



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Re: How to run these traveler lines aft.

Leading them aft might be a bit of a nuisance. It is hard to tell exactly how far it is from the helm position to the traveler, but you might be able to get away with installing cams with fairleads in your existing location. That allows you to pull the traveler up from an angle, as long as the rope is long enough to reach your helm position.



Another option might be to use swivel cams with fairleads in that position.

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Re: How to run these traveler lines aft.

Harken Hardware Catalog

On pg 16 of the Harken catalog, it shows some main traveler options. I could see the upper rt 4-1 working, with the lines running back to the helm then a cam cleat at this point. ISSUE is the seat that raises on the one side. The line would be going over that spot. so raising the seat could be an issue at times. Reality is, not sure in a simple manure you can succeed per say. I do believe with some thinking it can be done. My other question would be, how much drag with the line get making it go to the back, so it will be a pain to pull on the line!

You have a setup where I do, but with a tiller, I can sit much farther forward, so it is not and issue. I do like the harken windward sheeting car I have vs the one you have.

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pic of my setup, line is looped, so works reasonably well
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Re: How to run these traveler lines aft.

Would it be possible to replace the double blocks on either end with blocks that have cam cleats or to just add a cam cleat to the existing double blocks?
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Re: How to run these traveler lines aft.

Rob,

Short answer should be yes, it is possible. Look up your systems manufacture to see if these blocks/cams exist. They do for harken, I believe they also exist for lewmar and ronstad. And if you could get them, Amoit a french manufacture of deck gear also has what you are asking for. Many items interchange, as tracks seem to be generally speaking, interchangeable in dimensions.

Obviously, if you can get parts from your systems manufacture, the change over is simpler than in my case, Amoit/Goiot parts were unavailable, so a complete change out was needed to succeed with a better traveler setup.

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Re: How to run these traveler lines aft.

replace the cam cleats with cheek blocks and relocate the cams closer to the helm
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Re: How to run these traveler lines aft.

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replace the cam cleats with cheek blocks and relocate the cams closer to the helm
Probably the simplest/cheapest solution.. if you run the lines just below the height of the coaming they won't interfere with seating or lifting the seat underway, except perhaps behind someone's back when sitting on the seat. Friction might be a bit of an issue.

Practically I think the best set up here would be having the traveler control line cleats on the car, and just have long enough tails to reach the helm postiion. That way if you have crew they can do the job from the normal position but you can, when solo or short handed also manage to do it from the wheel. Pricier solution esp if you can't adapt your existing car and need a new one....
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Re: How to run these traveler lines aft.

Why not simply replace the pad eyes at the turning blocks on either end of the traveler with Harken H144 swivel base with integral cam cleat. With that, the direction of the control line lead can be rotated as necessary from vertical to horizontal or between the two. The existing becket block can be used and the switch would be quite easy, requiring only that the control lines be long enough to reach the helm position.

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