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Mantus Anchors 12-29-2012 12:39 PM

Anchor Wars
 
This video shows how Mantus Compares to the Rocna, Manson Supreme, Spade on short scope....

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T37Chef 12-29-2012 01:00 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
In the video, chain rode is not being used, why? Does Mantus suggest not to use any chain? I looked on your website but couldn't find any information regarding the suggested set up for the rode, swivels, etc?

Also, why demonstrate with such a short scope, 2:1? Who realistically would set a anchor using 2:1 scope? Are you kidding? On the contrary, the videos on your website show a unreasonable long scope since the anchors demonstrated are attached to a hitch on a Jeep. The angle of the rode appears to be less than 10 degrees, maybe 20:1? LOL if that?

I'm not trying to imply the Mantus isn't a good anchor, in fact I may purchase one, but I think your video demonstrations are flawed and not showing realistic conditions or results.

Bradhamlet 12-29-2012 01:20 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
Really, he holds their anchor rode at his waist and pulls, the others get to be held next to his chin. Ya I think this is what may be called biased? Like the Chef said it might be a great anchor but this informal test did little to convince me.

Brad
Lancer 36

Mantus Anchors 12-29-2012 01:32 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
I thought I would get that ;) It does not matter how you hold them this 4:1 scope

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Mantus Anchors 12-29-2012 01:56 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradhamlet (Post 968471)
Really, he holds their anchor rode at his waist and pulls, the others get to be held next to his chin. Ya I think this is what may be called biased? Like the Chef said it might be a great anchor but this informal test did little to convince me.

Brad
Lancer 36

Besides what formal test do you know, that tests setting in hard to penetrate bottom....
Have you ever seen at test where an anchor from a big Manufacturer completely failed? Tests don't get set up that way..
The closest you could come to a real test is Main Sail.... And the combined knowledge of the sailing community....
In an emergency you need gear that you can rely on, it needs to work all the time and every time.... and immediately

Mantus Anchors 12-29-2012 02:05 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradhamlet (Post 968471)
Really, he holds their anchor rode at his waist and pulls, the others get to be held next to his chin. Ya I think this is what may be called biased? Like the Chef said it might be a great anchor but this informal test did little to convince me.

Brad
Lancer 36

and lastly the only reason my hands go lower is bc the anchor sets and I cant hold them hi any longer, you should try it and you will know what I mean...
"It is what it is"

Mantus Anchors 12-29-2012 02:11 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
We saw this practical sailor test, and mirrored it..:

http://www.manson-marine.co.nz/Ancho...or%20Tests.pdf

We test in the extremes, because it exaggerates the differences. We challenged the anchor to the fullest 2:1 Scope and the bottom where competition does not set in even at 4:1 Scope and it still sets....

pdqaltair 12-29-2012 02:20 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
Just a party trick demonstrating that the fluke angle of their anchor is a few degrees greater, which doesn't actually correlate to better overall. I believe it is very likely an exceptional anchor, but the pitch is an embarrassment to Manta.

Freerider 12-29-2012 02:53 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pdqaltair (Post 968507)
Just a party trick demonstrating that the fluke angle of their anchor is a few degrees greater, which doesn't actually correlate to better overall.

My thoughts exactly.

Although i do plan on getting a big one as a storm anchor, I love how it can be stored disassembled.

Mantus Anchors 12-29-2012 03:09 PM

Re: Anchor Wars
 
I am not sure what is meant by the fluke angle ?
If it is the angle between the shank and the fluke....
Than, Spade infect has the biggest Shank to Fluke angle..... And bigger fluke to shank angle does not help setting ability but hurts it....
If you think ability to set in hard to penetrate bottom is not important to you you are right you should not be impressed, but if you want an anchor that sets everywhere an anchor you can count to set in an emergency even at short scope...
Than you should care....


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