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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

$900.00?? Whew, some of you guys need "shopping training".

I bought a Helly Hansen Tactician's jacket at the Annapolis Boat Show on the last day for $160.00. Normal price: $375.00.

HH Men's Tactician's Jacket

The Tactician's jacket is similar to the Skagen jacket someone posted earlier, from HH's "coastal" line, which is their middle price/performance line which is totally adequate for the sailing that 90% of us do.

This jacket is one of my favorite pieces of personal gear, absolutely worth $160.00. Look for good sales and boat shows, buy a good jacket that is a little oversized, and layer yourself with some inexpensive wicking shirts, then an inexpensive fleece on top of that, then the jacket on top of that.

The wicking shirt pulls the sweat away from your skin, keeping you dry.
The fleece keeps you warm, and traps heat inside the outer layer.
The HH jacket keeps you dry from exterior moisture, and warm by blocking out the wind.

I know some of us are cheap bastards, but there are some things you shouldn't and don't have to compromise on. Exposure leads to fatigue, fatigue leads to mistakes, broken gear, and injuries. Good foul weather gear helps mitigate all of that.
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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

I have a Henri Lloyd TP2 Ventura that I picked up at the boat show a couple years ago for around $160 and find more than adequate. If you don't want to wait til October, I've also found good deals on foul weather gear around Presidents' Day (2/18 this year). I imagine retailers restock after the boat shows for fall rally/snowbirding season and then want to clearance it out again for new stuff coming in for spring.
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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

Agree with AirborneSF, nothing cheap in Annapolis. I walk in smiling, if I leave smiling it means I didn't buy anything! I did find a used Gill OS1 at a Good Will store for $65 though. Always check the "used" stores in marine oriented cities!
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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

David, I try to shop around at the end of the year clearances, when lines are bing changed and last year's color goes for cheap.

DIY on foulies could be a major task. The fabrics, whether you want gen-you-whine GoreTex or anything else breathable, are probably available SOME where. The patterns, with storm cuffs and a good collar and hood? Well, you can make your own pattern, start with cheap poplin or canvas and mock it up.

Then of coure there's the sewing. Even if you are that good on that complex a shape (and I'm told that the crotch on men's pants is the hardest thing to sew properly, stick to kilts) if you want to stay dry you also need to tape and seal the seams, all of them. Another good trick, locate the right adhesive and tape.

Dunno, I'd think buying a risky bargain on Gen-you-whine GoreTex for China, where Gore says they don't sell it, would be a whole lot less painful.

I wait like a vulture for the sales, and for the sales at the camping/hunting outlets.
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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

Don't worry so much about the fabric, if it isn't goretex or not. Most of the waterproof/breathable fabrics all perform similarly well. Focus more on zippers, seams, pockets, pitzips etc. Most jackets tend to leak in these areas regardless of the fabric. Garment should have welded seams and be lined on the inside. Read up on different products and their properties. Also consider, slightly less waterproof = more breathable.
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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

There is one advantage to gen-you-whine GoreTex over any other material. If your Gore-Tex product is genuine, not counterfeit, and it carries one of their "extreme wet weather" or similar warranties?

Well, after five years anything may be leaking. But Gore will stand up to their warranty and REPLACE IT FREE OF CHARGE and speaking from experience, they've got great warranty service.

$900 is still a lot of money for a jacket. But in the $200-400 end of the market...Gore's warranty can effectively cut your price in half, whatever it is.
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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

So far I have found West Marine's Third Reef jacket to be more than adequate. It doesn't breathe well, but then neither does PVC fishing gear, and that works for fishermen. Third Reef is nearly always on sale :

WEST MARINE Men's Third Reef Jacket at West Marine
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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

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I have acquired a bunch of expensive gore-tex items over the last 25 years which i continue to nurse along as they work better than anything else


If for example you go to Target and look real careful you can find Poly Pro/wool base layers for 20 cents on the dollar and its what keeps you warm anyway

To be honest there is NO membrane or series of base and mid layers made that can pass the amount of moisture i generate when active and i ALWAYS get wet from the inside out

For my sailing i make due with some mid level west marine stuff
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You're wearing tights. That just ain't right unless you are drawn by Stan Lee.

I do agree that $900 will buy a wardrobe. I have a perfectly serviceable West Marine "Third reef" jacket and bib overall pair that I have worn through five years of three season sailing and when shoveling snow in -10 degree weather and has been comfortable and effective.
For less than $300 on sale.
My boots have leaked more than the pants or jacket have, and with the conditions-appropriate layering underneath, I can gear down or gear up as conditions require without losing windbreaking or waterproof performance.
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There is one advantage to gen-you-whine GoreTex over any other material. If your Gore-Tex product is genuine, not counterfeit, and it carries one of their "extreme wet weather" or similar warranties?

Well, after five years anything may be leaking. But Gore will stand up to their warranty and REPLACE IT FREE OF CHARGE and speaking from experience, they've got great warranty service.

$900 is still a lot of money for a jacket. But in the $200-400 end of the market...Gore's warranty can effectively cut your price in half, whatever it is.
Am I to understand that Gore-tex offered a warranty on a manufactured product, not just their material? The other products are not "counterfeit" they are just different micro porous materials, the Gore-Tex patent expired as well. Many are found in reputable products like Mountain Hardware, Patagonia, NorthFace and others. The benefits are that some products are more weather resistant and some are more breathable. Gill seems to be one of the more reasonably priced when on sale as well as SLAM. Henri Lloyd seems to be proud no matter what.
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Re: Anyone make their own jackets etc.

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To get the right captain's coat I had to get at the sewing machine! Patterns are available, But; the 30 brass buttons where hard to find ,For material I stayed to navy blue wool. You could get what ever you want at a fabric store. What I am looking for is a good three corner hat!...Dale
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