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xymotic 01-05-2013 08:23 PM

best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
I'm interested in using these underwater lights:
WEST MARINE Platinum Series Bay Blaze Underwater LED Lights at West Marine

but I'm unsure how to best go about it. The lights themselves come with a nylon spacer to offset the SS screw from the aluminium body.

But the body itself would rest against the hull. (there will be paint and barrier coat but still) there obviously needs to be a hole for the wire, but I'm also not super hot on drilling/tapping the hull and mounting the screws in.

So I'm wondering what you guys think. weld a SS nut onto the hull and then attach the light to that a little offset from hull? A plastic backing material?

Tim R. 01-05-2013 09:45 PM

Re: best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
Why do you need an underwater light?

xymotic 01-05-2013 09:56 PM

Re: best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treilley (Post 971486)
Why do you need an underwater light?

Need?? What means this word?

PorFin 01-05-2013 10:04 PM

Re: best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
xymotic:

I think welding a nut onto your hull is overthinking it a bit.

I'd probably be inclined to treat the light as any other below-the-waterline through hull. Pick your location, drill your main and bolt holes, bed the puppy with a liberal amount good sealant, and through bolt it. Since your hull is steel, lock washers and hex nuts should be sufficient.

noelex77 01-06-2013 02:35 AM

Re: best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
IMHO if the body of this light is aluminium you cannot use it on a steel hull.
There will be electrical contact between the aluminium and steel via the fastenings.
This will result in rapid galvanic corrosion of the aluminium.

Please don't do it.
I honestly think your boat will sink in about 6 months if you do.

SloopJonB 01-06-2013 02:41 AM

Re: best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
Xymo - if you are talking about those pimpin' underwater lights that are being used on big power cruisers and sport fishers I recommend you screw them directly to the hull with no gasket or spacer between the metals - this will ensure a good ground for the electricals. You also don't need to do anything special with the wire connections - they are UNDERWATER lights after all so that's all been taken care of by the manufacturer. :)

Minnewaska 01-06-2013 09:54 AM

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You may need some bedding to prevent electrolysis, but these are holes drilled through your hull with no seacock to shut down a failure. They should be bed in the nastiest, most permanent goop you can possibly conjure up.

The prior owner of our boat had them installed. They make me nervous and boy do they suck up some power when they are on!! In any case, they are completely useless around here. Even in the relatively clear water of Cuttyhunk, I haven't been able to see anything. The grass bed is only 7 or 8 feet below the lights and its indistinguishable. Unless in truly crystal clear water of the Caribbean, they are a waste of money, IMO.

If you just want the "glow" around the boat at the dock, no other sailboat crew is going to speak to you. :)

xymotic 01-06-2013 06:07 PM

Re: best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PorFin (Post 971493)
xymotic:

I think welding a nut onto your hull is overthinking it a bit.

I'd probably be inclined to treat the light as any other below-the-waterline through hull. Pick your location, drill your main and bolt holes, bed the puppy with a liberal amount good sealant, and through bolt it. Since your hull is steel, lock washers and hex nuts should be sufficient.

Thanks, I think I'm gonna 'just do it' like you said and not worry too much about it.

As for electrolysis, I'll just isolate it with some nylon spacers. But worse case it would be the $100 aluminum light that goes, not the hull (right!?) In any case, it'll be in a place where I can inspect the backside easily.

As for power/heat, these are LED and really quite nice little lights. I'm also planning on using some as spreader lights.

As for the pimpin light... can't help it! I am a redneck and grew up in a trailer park. I have about a billion projects for my boat and so where did I start? I bought some Blue LED speaker grills of course!

Yes, I realize how ridiculous that is.

I did do some actual work on it though:

before:
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http://www.ontheboat.net/gallery3/var/resizes/Oceana/projects/Ports-and-hatches/Forward-Hatch/20120711-IMG_20120711_142940.jpg


after:

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overbored 01-06-2013 06:41 PM

Re: best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xymotic (Post 971475)
I'm interested in using these underwater lights:
WEST MARINE Platinum Series Bay Blaze Underwater LED Lights at West Marine

but I'm unsure how to best go about it. The lights themselves come with a nylon spacer to offset the SS screw from the aluminium body.

But the body itself would rest against the hull. (there will be paint and barrier coat but still) there obviously needs to be a hole for the wire, but I'm also not super hot on drilling/tapping the hull and mounting the screws in.

So I'm wondering what you guys think. weld a SS nut onto the hull and then attach the light to that a little offset from hull? A plastic backing material?

what aluminun it says it is a polycarbonate housing and glass lens. looks to me like they are the cheap type of underwater light made for trailer boats

noelex77 01-06-2013 08:20 PM

Re: best way to mount Aluminium to steel underwater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xymotic (Post 971759)
As for electrolysis, I'll just isolate it with some nylon spacers. But worse case it would be the $100 aluminum light that goes, not the hull (right!?) In any case, it'll be in a place where I can inspect the backside easily.

There is no danger to the hull. The problem is the light is nice anode for the hull. If the aluminium light housing dissolves, which it will do sooner or later, you are left with a hole in hull underwater :(


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