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matthewwhill 01-06-2013 11:24 PM

Need advice: small hole in genoa
 
I found a hole I could stick my finger through near the head of my 150 genoa. Any references or recommendations? Sail tape on both sides? Patch kits?

Alex W 01-06-2013 11:37 PM

Re: Need advice: small hole in genoa
 
Is it a puncture hole or a wear hole? There are many layers of fabric at the points of the sail. If it is a wear hole and it's worn through all of the layers then I'd bring the sail home (or somewhere that would allow you to lay sections of it out in an open area) and inspect all of the stitching and fabric closely.

Sail tape is a good temporary repair and if it is a puncture hole it might be good for the long term.

Lake Union today was quite gusty and a bit of a handful with a 150, I don't know if Lake WA was the same? We started with a 150, but did a sail change over to the 110.

Ballard Sails (Shilshole) did some sail repairs for me at a reasonable price last year.

matthewwhill 01-06-2013 11:55 PM

Re: Need advice: small hole in genoa
 
I was on Lake WA today, I doubt the wind got over 10 knots.

I would describe it as a puncture hole.

jackdale 01-07-2013 12:12 AM

Re: Need advice: small hole in genoa
 
Take the sail in for repair and have it cleaned and checked at the same time.

A small repair cheaper than a big repair.

I would also check to see why you got a puncture hole.

MarkofSeaLife 01-07-2013 09:48 AM

Re: Need advice: small hole in genoa
 
Oh a subject I have had much experience!
I have had to do a LOT of patching to keep my sails till I can afford to get new ones.

My UV damaged mainsail did 20,000 nms!

Get some contact glue for industrial use, I have a litre can.
I prefer to use heavier sail cloth than the sail repair tape, but tape is fine.
Coat the area of the hole with contact glue working it into the fabric as much as you can.
Coat the sail tape (yep, over the sticky stuff).
Leave both to dry till its touch dry.
Apply patch to hole.
HOLD patch on with both hands squashing firmly together and recite some long passage learned as a child. If you can't remember one and are in an anchorage wait for three dinghys to go past... Don't wave to them.

When that side is dry you can do the other side :)

Never let a sailmaker try to rip your sail with his fingers. Because rip they will! And then tell you the sail needs replacing. No it doesn't. It just needs patching. It needs replacing when it shreds.


As to why you got it, though its a puncture hole it could be chafe but look carefully at the rigging too to make sure you don't have a strand of stay poking out.

Mark

Alex W 01-07-2013 10:54 AM

Re: Need advice: small hole in genoa
 
This is a demo of that method (just using 5200 instead of contact cement):
How to Patch a Sail

It looks permanent in both the good and bad. It doesn't peel off later like sail tape, which allows it to last a long time. However it also doesn't allow a sewn repair to be done in the future.

I disagree with this from Mark statement though: "It needs replacing when it shreds."

If you just sail downwind maybe that is true, but for upwind sailing I don't think there is anything that makes a bigger difference then going from a blown out old sail to a new crisp one. I wouldn't wait for sails to shred to call them dead, I'd wait until you can no longer control their shape effectively.

blt2ski 01-07-2013 11:18 AM

Re: Need advice: small hole in genoa
 
2nd ballard sails just to the south of the WM on Seaview. Which is just south of the shilshoal marina. North above fisheries is also good. Ullman takes repairs to ballard sails.

Marty

jameswilson29 01-07-2013 11:26 AM

Re: Need advice: small hole in genoa
 
Clean, tape both sides, and forget it. Replace sail when shredded. Buy used sails on eBay.


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