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I should have thought of this earlier. A must see for coldwater water sailors.

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Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

I am never out of cell phone range, so a good waterproof phone case is another option for me. This is something that might not have been true a few short years ago. Block Island Sound, Long Island Sound and Narragansett Bay are completely covered.

I don't know about the great lakes, but in the Northeast, South of Maine unless you are going offshore you will probably get a signal.

I moved my boat from Annapolis, MD to Bock Island, RI and to my knowledge, never lost signal.

This is not to belittle a tether and a hand held, but something to keep in mind for coastal cruisers and day sailors.

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Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Even the coast guard cites cautions about using a cellphone.

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The Coast Guard does not advocate cellular phones as a substitute
for the regular maritime radio distress and safety systems
recognized by the Federal Communications Commission and the
International Radio Regulations -- particularly VHF maritime
radio. However, cellular phones can have a place on board as an
added measure of safety.
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/doc/cellular.txt

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Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Thanks for the replies and advice. I have no intention of cutting away from the sailboat unless in the UNLIKELY event it's pinning me down underwater because of a capsize or it decides to repurpose itself as an anchor. I like what you all told me about the Wichard tether so I'll go ahead and get one of those.
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Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Use 4 anchor points in the cockpit, jacklines and lots of tethers.

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Even the coast guard cites cautions about using a cellphone.



http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/doc/cellular.txt
Yes. Your VHF is your first line of communication. But when your hand held is out of range but you still get a cell phone signal I think it might be worth it to make the call.

I will add from personal experience, the USCG will ask you, via VHF, if you have a cell phone and if so, what is your number. They may also prefer to communicate with you on your cell phone as it will free up VHF channels.

In the summer of 2011 I was involved in an emergency situation (my boat began taking on water) and did most of my communication over the cell phone while the USCG used VHF to communicate with it's own vessels and send out notifications to other mariners of my situation.

In the summer of 2008 I was involved in assisting a vessel in distress as the reporting vessel (power boat, at night, adrift, no VHF, no phone, taking on water, luckily I noticed their flares). After my initial contact via VHF the USCG preferred to communicate with me via my cell phone.

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....I have no intention of cutting away from the sailboat unless in the UNLIKELY event it's pinning me down underwater because of a capsize or it decides to repurpose itself as an anchor.....
Then don't fall over the rail !!

If you do, you'll have no choice but to cut yourself away or pull the quick release, otherwise, the boat will drag you till you drown. Even moving at a few knots is more water pressure than you'll withstand and I would say that its more common to fall off moving boats, not stationary.

As most run their jacklines down the side decks, even a 3ft tether will allow you to hang over the rail, as you strain against the jackline webbing that is often run the length of the boat. Its much better to run the jacklines closer to the center of the boat, or in smaller sections. It's much less convenient too, as you'll have to unclip and move your tether around shrouds, attach points, etc. This is why Jack keeps separate tethers around the boat, I'm sure.
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Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

My boat's beam is 10'8" at it's widest.

I run a single tether from the bow to the cockpit down the center. I start at a forward cleat and pull it as tight as I can and give it a couple of wraps around the mast then continue it aft to the cockpit and secure it there. Keeping the tether tight and secured in two shorter sections reduces stretch and can help keep you from going over the life lines.

I have a double ended tether, 3' and 5'. I use the 5' to get to the mast and work there. If I need to go further (and that seems rare), I clip the 3' section forward of the mast and unclip the 5' section. Using the 3' section I can't stand up, but I can't fall overboard as I work my way towards the bow and the boat narrows.

Oh, and I use the elastic covered tether as it seems so much easier to work with, thus I'm more apt to use it.

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Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

On small craft I am not impressed by jack lines, as they allow for excesive stretch Jack lines make for tripers and tend to roll under foot . I have installed solid rings and use a double ended tethers instead. I know I can't fall over the side and still can move anywhere on deck............Dale

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Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Regarding your handheld VHF + Handheld GPS, I'd suggest you could combine the two. There are newer handheld VHF radios with in-built GPS receivers. This means you have a DSC VHF in your hand, which will automatically relay your coordinates to other DSC radios in the area in the event of an emergency. I'm sure you could also manually read the coordinates off the screen and report them to anyone via a traditional mayday over the VHF.
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