Opinions and thoughts on purchase - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree14Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 01-15-2013
agarcia's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 25
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
agarcia is on a distinguished road
Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Hi
So I solo sail on the Great Lakes and would like to eventually progress my way upward towards costal/offshore down the road. (couple years down the road). Anyways today I bought my first pfd, Mustang HIT MD 3184 with harness, and handheld vhf radio, Standard Horizon HX300. The HX 300 I figure is small enough and light to attach it to me in case I go over or need to cut away. My thoughts are I can radio someone if I'm lucky enough to hail them in range. Also I was able to find a light handheld GPS for cheap and IPX7 to give my position. Is my logic faulty or any opinions on those products? I'm also looking at Spinlock tether with the dual attachment (short\long) that goes for about $160. Any problems with that tether or is there a better choice? Thanks
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 01-15-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 8,693
Thanks: 10
Thanked 113 Times in 107 Posts
Rep Power: 6
Minnewaska will become famous soon enough Minnewaska will become famous soon enough
Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

I like the Spinlock tether. No pull cord that could be snagged and released. You must carry an s-cutter with one.

What is the water temp? How long will you last in the water waiting?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 01-15-2013
agarcia's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 25
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
agarcia is on a distinguished road
For Lake Michigan from May to October it's usually between 50 to 70 F. I usually sail during the week so boat traffic is lighter. This probably would increase the likelihood of more time spent in the water if I go overboard. So basically cold. I'm not sure what kind of range with a 5 watt handheld. Hard to tell then the probability of a pick up/time spent in the water.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 01-16-2013
Lake Superior Sailor's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Eagle River Wi.
Posts: 908
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 3
Lake Superior Sailor is on a distinguished road
Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Stay on the boat, your time in the water is for praying ! A good PFD saves the body for insurance proof! I would rethink your program.......Dale
kellysails and jackdale like this.
__________________
Reluctant Lady
Cal 28, 1967
Lake Superior
Where God got it done!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 01-16-2013
jackdale's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 8,749
Thanks: 25
Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts
Rep Power: 6
jackdale will become famous soon enough
Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Quote:
Originally Posted by agarcia View Post
Hi
So I solo sail on the Great Lakes and would like to eventually progress my way upward towards costal/offshore down the road. (couple years down the road). Anyways today I bought my first pfd, Mustang HIT MD 3184 with harness, and handheld vhf radio, Standard Horizon HX300. The HX 300 I figure is small enough and light to attach it to me in case I go over or need to cut away. My thoughts are I can radio someone if I'm lucky enough to hail them in range. Also I was able to find a light handheld GPS for cheap and IPX7 to give my position. Is my logic faulty or any opinions on those products? I'm also looking at Spinlock tether with the dual attachment (short\long) that goes for about $160. Any problems with that tether or is there a better choice? Thanks
Rather than the radio, I would have suggested a PLB. Triggering that would would issue a Mayday and provide your position. The Spinlock tether should be used with the Spinlock pfd. Get a quick release 3'/6' tether with Gibb, Wicahrd or similar clips.
chef2sail and msmith10 like this.
__________________
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 01-16-2013
jackdale's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 8,749
Thanks: 25
Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts
Rep Power: 6
jackdale will become famous soon enough
Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
I like the Spinlock tether. No pull cord that could be snagged and released. You must carry an s-cutter with one.
I have used quick release tethers for years and never had one release accidently.

I also switch tethers as I move around a boat. I place them in strategic positions: 2-4 in the cockpit, 2 on each jackline, 1 at the mast, one on the bow (ideally). I am never unhooked.

I have been on race boats where they clip and unclip as they move around; I like to stay attached.
chef2sail likes this.
__________________
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 01-16-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 8,693
Thanks: 10
Thanked 113 Times in 107 Posts
Rep Power: 6
Minnewaska will become famous soon enough Minnewaska will become famous soon enough
Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackdale View Post
I have used quick release tethers for years and never had one release accidently.........
We both know this is highly a matter of personal preference and like debating anchors. For those, like me, that prefer a tether without the quick release, its seems like a heightened point of failure, not a sure one.

Opening the Spinlock catch simply requires opposing movement, so it would be near impossible to happen accidentally. Doing so yourself, to move about, isn't so hard. IMHO
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 01-16-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 8,693
Thanks: 10
Thanked 113 Times in 107 Posts
Rep Power: 6
Minnewaska will become famous soon enough Minnewaska will become famous soon enough
Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Quote:
Originally Posted by agarcia View Post
For Lake Michigan from May to October it's usually between 50 to 70 F. I usually sail during the week so boat traffic is lighter. This probably would increase the likelihood of more time spent in the water if I go overboard. So basically cold. I'm not sure what kind of range with a 5 watt handheld. Hard to tell then the probability of a pick up/time spent in the water.
You would have some time in 70 degs, but not much at 50 degs. I would say a handheld vhf is probably good to 3 miles max and not strong at that. In your scenario, you're transmitting from precisely sea level.

Your plan to stay out of the water by using a good tether setup is good. Be sure they are positioned, so you wouldn't just hang over the side. You want them to prevent going over the side.

Then, think about what you need to stay alive, if you do. A life raft is highly desirable in cold water. A MOM 9 could save your life, but someone needs to still be aboard to deploy it. Seems like you are planning for the potential to be overboard while singlehanding?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 01-16-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Milton, DE
Posts: 593
Thanks: 2
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Flybyknight is on a distinguished road
Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

May I respectfully submit that you refocus your priorities to:
Stay in the boat.
Do not fall overboard.
Make sure it is physically impossible for you to fall off the boat.
Assume that if you fall over board no one will come to your rescue.
Assume that if you go over board you are definitely going to die.
Please accept this in the supportive spirit in which it is offered.
Dick
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 01-16-2013
jackdale's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 8,749
Thanks: 25
Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts
Rep Power: 6
jackdale will become famous soon enough
Re: Opinions and thoughts on purchase

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flybyknight View Post
Stay in the boat.
Rule #1

In 30 years I have never a crew overboard.
__________________
__________________
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor Evaluator
Sail Canada Advanced Cruising Instructor
IYT Yachtmaster Coastal Instructor
As I sail, I praise God, and care not. (Luke Foxe)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Purchase, sales taxes, location of purchase, and the laws? dgasmd General Discussion (sailing related) 4 10-14-2012 07:57 PM
First Purchase GoingSouthIn2 Beneteau 10 09-25-2012 11:50 PM
Opinions on possible purchase of this Oday 37. pogosmoke Boat Review and Purchase Forum 7 03-04-2011 11:04 AM
Irwin Citation 35'- thoughts? Opinions? edstill Boat Review and Purchase Forum 0 10-05-2008 06:35 PM
Thoughts on Newbie 1st boat purchase WanderingFool Boat Review and Purchase Forum 94 09-28-2007 11:10 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:49 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.