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OK just not to bust your bubble if at a marina its so unsafe due to the risk of ! electric shock!
Of course one wants to dive safely, but it should be noted almost zero electric shock drownings occur in saltwater (where I presume the OP keeps his boat.) Almost all ESDs happen in freshwater. The OP is at far greater risk simply driving to his saltwater marina than he is diving in it.
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So will you be allowed to clean non-copper ablative paints? Inquiring minds...
I have not heard frankly. My marina does not allow in water cleaning no matter the type, even tho state law allows cleaning of hard paints. They are a bit anal shall we say.........THey have even gone so far as to take brushes as I described off of peoples boats! I personally have a foldable/telescoping one that fits in the cockpit locker! I will hit the rudder and hull sides for the slime I get.

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I have not heard frankly. My marina does not allow in water cleaning no matter the type, even tho state law allows cleaning of hard paints. They are a bit anal shall we say...
Well, for what it's worth, the alternatives to copper-based paints are typically less effective than the products they are replacing, so if you need hull cleaning now, you will need it moreso when the copper ban kicks in. It might not hurt to make the marina aware of this. 'Course, this is all years down the road.
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Don't forget, cleaning a hull at 'night' ain't easy you miss spots (I know), and IF you think the bay has any visibilty below a foot, ha. I have a 30ft hose, and leave the tank on the boat, just swin around, less weight. I've heard of people using auto body suction cups to stay in place while cleaning, cause it ain't easy to stay in one spot. .02
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I've heard of people using auto body suction cups to stay in place while cleaning, cause it ain't easy to stay in one spot.
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Re: Clean bottom how much?

The fine for cleaning "soft/toxic" (so copper based abvalitive) paints in WA is $10,000:
Hull Cleaning and Boat Washing | Clean Green Boating | Washington State Department of Ecology

Pressure washing a boat on the lift typically has an $80 handling fee as well to divert waste water from sewers. Realistically it's hard paint or no cleaning here.
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Re: Clean bottom how much?

LOL. I don't like to try to clean my hull at the dock, as there isn't enough room, and the bottom gets stirred up being so close. More room under the hull, to me anyway, means less 'bumps' on my head from the hull,(guess how ya find that out), and the boat is ALWAYS moving. Maybe we should get a small floating dry dock, and use that to clean hulls.? .02
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Re: Clean bottom how much?

$2.25/ft plus $10 labor for each zinc. That's on San Francisco Bay for a narrow 27 footer with really good anti-fouling paint. With good paint, we on SF Bay don't get awful fouling. If I used cheaper paint, I'd expect to pay my diver more.

My 27-footer gets cleaned every 4 months when the paint is new, mostly just to check and replace the zincs. Oh yeah, I almost forgot: he has to scrape the critters of the prop, strut and shaft. That's one nasty job, I fear that probably should be done more frequently if I were really picky. I'm not.... I've got a three blade prop .

When the paint is 18 months old, it's needed every 2-3 months, and at 24 months it's time for new bottom paint.

My diver uses a very soft brush when he inspects the bottom. He's a careful diver. Never broke my transducers, like my previous diver. And keeps me well informed about the condition of my boat.

And, the best part? I don't have to spend a day doing the dirty work myself. Priceless.

The water is 50-65 degrees. Salt. I use Petit Trinidad Pro. The stuff is expensive but the bottom stays clean and the paint pays for itself in the long run.

On my trailerable, I'm going to try Interlux Fiberglass Bottom Kote Aqua. Sometimes I keep it in the water for a month or two at a time. It's a hard paint that stays active even when out of the water. It's not cheap either, but it has a great reputation.
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I pay $2.50 a foot on my 27 footer...
I beg to differ, Judy. You pay $2.25/foot.

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I get the bottom cleaned every 4 months when the paint is new... The bottom stays clean except for a little fuzz that comes off when we go sailing.
Again, I beg to differ. ;-)
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