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steve77 01-27-2013 06:04 PM

Which winch?
 
It looks like I will be replacing the four winches on my new-to-me Catalina 34. I'm leaning toward one of the new easy to service winches from either Harken or Lewmar and was wondering what opinions, experience, or thoughts others may have.

benesailor 01-27-2013 06:10 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
Why replace? Are they that shot?
I have self tailing lewmars and they work fine. Easy to maintain. I would venture to say that some would say that Harkens are better.
If your mind is set on new winches call around to some big dealers. Some people are buying new boats and having them retrofitted at delivery with electric winches. I saw 2 Lewmar 46's for sale the other day for this very reason. Good price to.

steve77 01-27-2013 06:25 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
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Originally Posted by benesailor (Post 981965)
Why replace? Are they that shot?
I have self tailing lewmars and they work fine. Easy to maintain. I would venture to say that some would say that Harkens are better.
If your mind is set on new winches call around to some big dealers. Some people are buying new boats and having them retrofitted at delivery with electric winches. I saw 2 Lewmar 46's for sale the other day for this very reason. Good price to.

Thanks, that's good to know. The guy who runs the rigging shop where I keep the boat did his winter inspection of everything and thinks they are on their way out. Two are old Arco winches, one a Maxwell (I think) and one a Lewmar. I haven't sailed the boat yet so I don't know how bad they actually are and will probably wait until after launch this season to take the plunge if necessary. But I wanted to get some feedback in the meantime.

Searching around the interwebs I've seen some discussions but they were all talking about the older models, of which most seemed to think that Harkens were particularly difficult to service.

benesailor 01-27-2013 07:15 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
Sorry, not well versed on Harken guts. Given where you are at i would think you could find some nice used models. It sounds like you could use an upgrade.
PM me if you want me to dig up the e-mail from RCR Yachts about the consignment of the 2 new lewmar 46's. I believe they had them $200 off the going price. Maybe wheel and deal from there.
When do they launch around there? Just wondering. Never sailed around MA.

SloopJonB 01-27-2013 07:39 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
How old are your winches? Are they self tailers? I've had winches up to 40 years old and they weren't "worn out" - they just needed servicing and a few springs & pawls. I've never even had to replace a bearing, let alone a gear.

I've never seen a winch wear out, only fail from misuse and/or abuse.

If you have to go for store bought new, I'd go for S/S Andersens, no question.

I haven't used Harkens but the current Lewmars are only "easy to service" in that they don't require a tool to get the drum lock nut off - they are a sort of thumb screw with a head somewhat like those "security" screws they use to assemble public restroom stalls, only a lot bigger.

steve77 01-27-2013 07:40 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
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Originally Posted by benesailor (Post 981996)
Sorry, not well versed on Harken guts. Given where you are at i would think you could find some nice used models. It sounds like you could use an upgrade.
PM me if you want me to dig up the e-mail from RCR Yachts about the consignment of the 2 new lewmar 46's. I believe they had them $200 off the going price. Maybe wheel and deal from there.
When do they launch around there? Just wondering. Never sailed around MA.

I live in MA but the boat is up in ME- but I think they launch the same date here, May 15. Haul by Oct 15 so unfortunately kind of a short season.

steve77 01-27-2013 07:57 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SloopJonB (Post 982004)
How old are your winches? Are they self tailers? I've had winches up to 40 years old and they weren't "worn out" - they just needed servicing and a few springs & pawls. I've never even had to replace a bearing, let alone a gear.

I've never seen a winch wear out, only fail from misuse and/or abuse.

If you have to go for store bought new, I'd go for S/S Andersens, no question.

I haven't used Harkens but the current Lewmars are only "easy to service" in that they don't require a tool to get the drum lock nut off - they are a sort of thumb screw with a head somewhat like those "security" screws they use to assemble public restroom stalls, only a lot bigger.

I don't know exactly how old the winches are. The boat is an '86 and I'm the third owner. The PO only had it a few years so I'm guessing the original owner replaced some or all of the winches. Maybe one is original, I don't know. They are all self-tailing.

Are Andersens worth the extra cost? Is the SS better than chromed bronze?

Faster 01-27-2013 08:01 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
If I was buying new it would be Andersens... esp if this is your 'forever' boat..

steve77 01-27-2013 08:04 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
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Originally Posted by Faster (Post 982015)
If I was buying new it would be Andersens... esp if this is you're 'forever' boat..

I don't know if it's my "forever" boat, but it's going to be my "quite a long time" boat.

benesailor 01-27-2013 08:14 PM

Re: Which winch?
 
S/S andersons are nice. That's true about winches wearing out; i've never seen it either. Then again i don't have umpteen years either.
I almost got me a C34...... then i happened onto the fire sale that i have now; my bene 400. Newlyweds, she didn't like sailing and wanted a new house. Something had to give. I told my BROTHER at his bachelor party i'd be getting that baby at half price....I like it a lot. "My forever boat" The admiral loves it.

May 15th in maine to start? I had no idea. I drop in april 15-20 like clock work. Pull out aound Oct 15, wish it was later.

Good luck with the winches


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