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Re: Speed/Depth/Wind conundrum

We've got the SH 180i, happy with it but it needed a chip and the resolution is somewhat wanting at certain zoom levels. But it's working. I understand the newest versions include chart files, but check that out.

If you want to talk to Raymarine you're probably better off with an integrated system on Seatalk rather than trying to interface different brands via NMEA.. though that's generally doable too. Raymarine has some nice $5-600 plotters, not sure how much the depth feature tacks on.

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Re: Speed/Depth/Wind conundrum

Personally I'd go for the biggest plotter I could afford. The 8" Ray I have the most time on is pretty good but even bigger would be great (old eyes).

I'd have one about 14" if I could.

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I have the Airmar ultrasonic speed which fits in the older shell for the old paddle wheel sensor. it has been in there for two years and has always been dead on and no moving parts, nothing to clean. my depth ( which i almost never use where I sail), is in hull type so no hole in the boat. airmar does make a speed sensor for transom mount but the transom needs to be down below the water to use this type. mostly for power boats

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Re: Speed/Depth/Wind conundrum

Another nice thing you get with many throughhull transducers nowadays is water temperature.. nice to have an idea before you jump of the deck...

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Re: Speed/Depth/Wind conundrum

I have the Airmar DST 800 speed/ depth/temp sensor right now, and it works great.

I'm not so keen on the GMI 10 display (which I have). It works particularly badly for wind info, as there is no adjustability for the damping / averaging.

So now I have :

Airmar DST 800
Simrad IS20 wind transducer and display (works beautifully)
GMI 10 for depth / speed / temp display (will replace it with one of the latest MFDs eventually)
Lowrance HDS-5m plotter (also displaying depth)

Everything is on NMEA 2000 so can share data. You can use the GMI 10 for second wind display, the IS20 uses boat speed data to calculate true wind, the plotter will display stuff too, but be careful here as it's easy to clutter up the screen.

So once you go with NMEA 2000 the expandability is excellent.

If your budget is limited to around $1000, personally I'd get the DST 800, and an NMEA 2000 chartplotter. You can always add a wind system and extra displays later (skip the GMI 10 and get something like the Simrad is40)

The pitfall with this NMEA 2000 stuff is calibrations. For example, the Lowrance plotter will not calibrate the knotlog. The Garmin ones will. Not sure about others. All the displays like GMI 10, is40, and so on, will.
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Re: Speed/Depth/Wind conundrum

I wanted to mention this package, just bought one myself for the wind system - sold the DST800 and combi display on Ebay.

SIMRAD IS20 Sail Pack at West Marine

Simrad is20 wind transducer and display, dst800, and second display for depth, speed and temp, all for $1000. Not a bad deal! Simrad did a great job on the wind system, the display is perfectly damped.

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I wanted to mention this package, just bought one myself for the wind system - sold the DST800 and combi display on Ebay.

SIMRAD IS20 Sail Pack at West Marine

Simrad is20 wind transducer and display, dst800, and second display for depth, speed and temp, all for $1000. Not a bad deal! Simrad did a great job on the wind system, the display is perfectly damped.
That isn't a bad deal at all! Think its a better deal than a Garmin GMI10 Speed/Depth/Wind at the same price? Faster has me leaning chartplotter now, but I'm still enticed by shiny things!
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Re: Speed/Depth/Wind conundrum

Yes, I think it's better because you're getting 2 displays including a dedicated wind display optimised for the job. The second combi display is not as powerful as a GMI 10 but if you just want to use it to display speed, depth and so on, it's good enough.

Don't forget NMEA is expandable so you can always buy a chartplotter etc later.

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Yes, I think it's better because you're getting 2 displays including a dedicated wind display optimised for the job. The second combi display is not as powerful as a GMI 10 but if you just want to use it to display speed, depth and so on, it's good enough.

Don't forget NMEA is expandable so you can always buy a chartplotter etc later.

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