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Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

NO, NO, NO....

Have your wife turn it into a wedding dress for your daughter(s), nieces, etc.

... a la WWII parachutes.

Just think, the bridesmaids could color coordinate w/ all the different colors in the chute.

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Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

If you truly decide to discard the sail or dont use or sell it, Turn it into fabric bags to transport provisions in the dinghy from ashore, covers for the dinghy or winch covers, or a nice lightweight canopy for at anchor to keep the sun off the boat.

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Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

I'm just going to put it out there:

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I thought the question was bordering on a complete waste of electrons because, as I figured, since I wasn't going to go the whole racer/pole route, my only option was to sell it. I did ask though, just in case there was something good I could do with such a powerful sail.

SvHyLyte, knuterkit and others to the rescue!

I've seen the ATN tacker many times, but I thought it was just a convenience tool of some kind for asymmetrics. How cool to find out that it can be used with symmetrics also. Even better, there is a low buck project in there to make it cheaper than the commercial version.

I've done the rubber band hoist before, and while I think it's a cool trick, hoisting isn't usually the problem. The problem is getting it back aboard when (oops!) the wind built higher and faster than you expected. I think a sock or a furler would be required for the wife to approve, and I am not sure a furler is the best option for a sail THAT big. That's a lot of furling....

My wife really is afraid of spinnakers and their power to capsize. It's entirely my fault because of the stories I've told, but there it is. One idea I came up with tonight, is to tie the Parrel bead collar, the sail's tack, and the tack-line, all together with a loop of light line. If the line is of the appropriately light breaking strength then when the boat starts to broach the line would break, thereby automatically releasing the tack, before the boat really broached or the sail ripped. Seems like a nice, easy, safety mechanism to me and the wife really approved of the idea of an automatic safety valve for preventing capsize. Either that, or she gave me the "that's a nice (hair-brained) idea honey" look. I can't usually tell the difference....

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll keep the sail for now, and hopefully once the wife gets more and more comfortable with the drifter I can pull out the big spinnaker later.

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Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

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Flying a symmetrical spinnaker without spinnaker pole was what the ATN tacker was made for.
I'd also add my vote for the ATN Tacker. I was in exactly the same situation as you, got the Tacker, and now I can "just about" fly our spinnaker solo.

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My wife really is afraid of spinnakers and their power to capsize. It's entirely my fault because of the stories I've told, but there it is. One idea I came up with tonight, is to tie the Parrel bead collar, the sail's tack, and the tack-line, all together with a loop of light line. If the line is of the appropriately light breaking strength then when the boat starts to broach the line would break, thereby automatically releasing the tack, before the boat really broached or the sail ripped. Seems like a nice, easy, safety mechanism to me and the wife really approved of the idea of an automatic safety valve for preventing capsize. ...

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If you're really worried about that, one way to "blow the tack" is to simply connect the tack of the sail to the parrel bead collar with a snap shackle and connect the snap shackle pin to a "rip cord" that you lead back to the cockpit outside the life-lines. Attach a big grab ring or handle to the cockpit end and, in extremis, one good snatch will blow the tack and put paid to a knock-down.

In our case, we simply don't use the sail when the true wind is much over 15 knots or apparent wind over 10. (Note, however, that the apparent wind will increase, and shift forward, as the yacht slows during the take-down. assuming one has been running off to some degree.) My pressure relief system is my (much) better half. She does most of the driving while I do the line handling and muscle work and, at the point when she says "I'm feeling nervous", we blow the tack and bag the sail. It's worked for us, eh?

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Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

Two people, especially if one is nervous, are not really enough to fly a big chute like yours. We use two for the sail and one on the helm. One winches the sail up and sheets it in while the other jumps the halyard and keeps things clear on the foredeck. On take down, we blow the tack and let the sail stream alongside. One eases the halyard so the sail just floats out flat over the water while the other gathers it in from the lee cabintop and stuffs it down the hatch. After a couple of times the sail doesn't even get any wet spots.

If you have a snuffer you could probably do it with two but I wouldn't if you're setting it and retrieving it loose.

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Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

I cut up my old mainsail to make a shower curtain out of it. Looks pretty good. Make a purse for the g/f out of some scrap. Might make another bag or two. Unfortunately it had to be hand stitched due to the thickness of the material.

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Make a purse for the g/f out of some scrap. .
Thanks for the suggestion but the wife would kill me if she found out!

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Re: What to do with my old spinnaker?

Med, I think what you are describing is a light air runner type kite. .5 oz is pretty light for your size boat and the sail probably has a wind range of 5 – 15 kts max true wind. A mid seventies construction could also mean a radial head (or older) design which is also make it dated and probably only good for really deep wind angles. That, and the fact that nylon isn’t UV stabilized means sell it for whatever you can get. The amount of rigging you would need to purchase probably doesn’t make it worthwhile (like, if the sail blows up after a couple of uses). Also flying that runner like it is an A-kite will be a lesson in frustration. Attaching the clew to the head stay will make the rounded, windward shoulder want to do a vicious head stay wrap and if you try to fly it at the hotter, A-kite angles, you will find yourself sailing on your ear a lot. Sell it on Craig’s List I am sure with all the cruising boats up there, someone will want it.
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If you're really worried about that, one way to "blow the tack" is to simply connect the tack of the sail to the parrel bead collar with a snap shackle and connect the snap shackle pin to a "rip cord" that you lead back to the cockpit outside the life-lines. Attach a big grab ring or handle to the cockpit end and, in extremis, one good snatch will blow the tack and put paid to a knock-down.
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My pressure relief system is my (much) better half. She does most of the driving while I do the line handling and muscle work and, at the point when she says "I'm feeling nervous", we blow the tack and bag the sail. It's worked for us, eh?

FWIW...
As if had written it my self, we do it the same way.
Both with regards to driving the boat and reducing sail

As I like to have may wife go sailing with me, this is one way to keep the wife comfortable.
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