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On my favorite gun forum, some jerk keeps starting threads about sailboats. It's annoying as hell. All it has ever done is cause trouble.

We had pretty well shut him down...it's a gun forum, after all, right. But now, to get around our objections, he thinks up weird scenarios that involve guns and sailboats. You know...just to fly under the wire. Like, what's the best gun lube for a blued model 1911, .45 caliber, if it's going to be on my SAILBOAT.

We try to explain to this guy, the value of topic specific sites, but he just doesn't get it. Always with the sailboats.
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What IS the best lubricant for a gun on a sailboat? I guess Breakfree...but then something a little thicker might be in order for all that salt spray and beer spilling!

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Like, what's the best gun lube for a blued model 1911, .45 caliber, if it's going to be on my SAILBOAT.
Don't you think a 9mm might be more appropriate...on a SAILBOAT?
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Legally? That depends on the state. I also don't know what will happen if you get boarded by the CG. Personally, I'd prefer they keep it on their person, I don't make a habit of screwing with other people's guns. If they are irresponsible with it on your boat, it may come back to bite you and not them (or both of you). Keeping it locked is your safest bet, but depending on where you are, it may not be legal (IANAL), BUT...

There is something called the "Firearm Owners Protection Act" that allows safe harbor for people traveling through states with weapons. There are requirements on storage and limitations on how it applies. I suggest you do your own research on it to see if it applies and how to abide by it.
Thank you Shinook. You were the kind of guy I was hoping to hear from. Someone with experience in this subject.
The safe harbor act is interesting, I looked it up.

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"If they are irresponsible with it on your boat, it may come back to bite you and not them (or both of you)."

I can't think of any way it could legally impact me on my original question where I'm crew only and the boat owner and captain brings the gun.

If I'm only crew it would seem I'm only responsible for my own actions.
You do bring up a good point. If I'm a paid captain and the owner is crew and transporting a gun I'll bet I have significant responsibility.

So I think I'll add to the list of questions when interviewing for crewing or captaining a question about fire-arms along with spare parts, life-rafts and anchors etc.

Thanks for bringing up the legal aspects of this issue as I was focusing on the safety issues but both need to be addressed.

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So what are the legal implications from the coastguards point of view? Coastguard is federal so I don't see them enforcing state regs.

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On my favorite gun forum, some jerk keeps starting threads about sailboats. It's annoying as hell.......
My vote for the best line of the day..........

(not that I think the OP is a jerk at all, its just funny.)
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So what are the legal implications from the coastguards point of view? Coastguard is federal so I don't see them enforcing state regs.
I believe the USCG does or can enforce local laws, such as BUI.


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In my experience, I know this sounds crazy. If I am on the vessel on a delivery or thinking of crewing on one I ask if there will be guns aboard. If someone says yes...I just plain dont go. Thats one of my deal breakers, Call it stupid or me a wimp Its how I feel. So no for me its not necessary to take a course.

If you put yourself in the situation where you have to know how to disarm a gun then go for it. Personally I know and have take courses, because I used to shoot when I was young. However I dont beleive All people have to know how to handle guns safely. Just those with guns.


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The two loudest sounds are the gun that goes " Click" when you expect a "Bang" and
the gun that goes "Bang" when you were expecting a "Click"
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I will only post this because you live around here and my son is a assistant district attorney with a pistol permit

REALLY REALLY few people have anything beyond a sportsman handgun permit on the NY SIDE of the sound which allows carry to the range and home


While there are various bussiness carry and security guard levels for a hand gun this is a REALLY LOCKED DOWN ITEM IN THE LIS AREA AND THEY DO NOT HONNOR OTHER AREAS PERMITS

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