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avenger79 03-04-2013 08:55 AM

painting
 
ok, i have a couple quick questions. first, how do you get a boat off of a trailer and onto a cradle or set of stands?
second, what is the procedure for and equipment needed for painting the hull and topsides of a boat?
last one, what do you use to fill in minor digs in the surface? she has a few deeper digs from the trailer on the front that I would like to fill in and smooth, before painting.

chucklesR 03-04-2013 09:08 AM

Re: painting
 
For the trailer to stand maneuver:
You jack it off the trailer onto stands, moving stands as you go about slowly moving the trailer out from under (i.e. move the stands each time a cross bar comes up to it)

for the painting bit - MANY threads here discuss it. Search them out with the search tool.
One hint, for gelcoat repair - either get matching gelcoat, or get Marinetex - and lots of sandpaper.

Barquito 03-04-2013 09:50 AM

Re: painting
 
Or, you can leave the boat on the trailer. Its like a boat cradle with wheels. When it comes time to work under the trailer bunks, there are various techniques to raise the boat off the bunks.

avenger79 03-04-2013 11:11 AM

Re: painting
 
both good points. I was thinking the same about trailer removal to stands. slow laborious process

tommays 03-04-2013 12:37 PM

Re: painting
 
I pay a really smart boat mover BUT how big is the boat as size does matter on this one ?

Daydreamer22 03-04-2013 12:39 PM

Re: painting
 
Last year I painted the bottom of my Oday 22 on the trailer.

I sanded most of the bottom with the boat just sitting on the trailer.

I painted one side at a time by jacking the trailer one side at a time, braced the boat under the rubrail, removed the tire, lowered the trailer until the bunks parted from the hull. Then blocked the trailer and removed the bunks. The stands for the bunks are bolted onto the trailer so they were easily removed.

It was a pain working over and around the trailer.

Sorry, I don't have any photos of the process.

avenger79 03-04-2013 12:41 PM

Re: painting
 
the boat is not huge at all. just the little o'day 19 that i bought. she looks good for now but I would love to repaint it in the near future. working around the trailer sounds like a decent option as well.

SHNOOL 03-04-2013 12:55 PM

Re: painting
 
here's how I did it:
http://www.shnool.com/images/capri25...-03-13_409.jpg
Note the temporary basement floor support:
http://www.shnool.com/images/capri25...-25-50_220.jpg

If the boat has ablative bottom paint, you can just rough it up and add more ablative (wear a respirator/goggles it's very toxic)... if you are looking to painting the first time (gelcoat only) make sure to rough it up and then put barrier coat on.

If you already have ablative on the bottom and you want to redo it, I strongly recommend PAYING someone to soda blast first. Second if you insist on doing it yourself, use a scraper, then lots of sandpaper, respirator, monkey suit, goggles.. a must... also the dust is toxic, sweep up in the same gear (use approved disposal).

Ok topsides are below the deck, and above the waterline... rough up the gelcoat, then paint with awlgrip, pettit, or interlux brightsides... BUT if you only have a dull gelcoat, consider instead, 600 grit wetsand, compound/polish/wax (it'll look stellar)... but if because you have huge dings, and you have to fill, then painting is your only option, then check out the paints.

I gave you this "crash list" because I am doing all this right now. Not a "weekend" project even on a 19 footer. Several weekends sure.

PS: don't bother with a cradle... if you have bunks (not stands - I have stands), jack up the trailer on one side... tilting boat/trailer Tie the boat off pulling it to say starboard (jacking up port) this will flop the boat to starboard... drop the port bunk... paint, then wait for dry time... then put the bunk back and repeat on the other side. I did my Capri 22 in 2 weekends doing this. The boat will rest on it's keel/swing keel mostly, and flopped to starboard it'll be plenty safe (tied off to starboard). Pictures worth 1000 words here:
http://www.shnool.com/images/_Capri1...longtoTilt.jpg

and here (note I had a wing keel, so I could literally just jack up under the keel, and raise the boat off the trailer).
http://www.shnool.com/images/_Capri1...atJackedUp.jpg

davidryan8100 03-04-2013 01:17 PM

Re: painting
 
Really done nice job there...
Like it...

avenger79 03-04-2013 01:34 PM

Re: painting
 
Shnool. Thanks for the very detailed response
Next question is ablative paint even necesary
On a trailered boat? It has just gelcoat now


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