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Advise on standing rigging

I am replacing 27 years old original standing rigging on my Bayfield 36' cutter.
Even though the old rigging appears to be in excellent condition, I want to replace it in preparation for offshore trips. Stays, lower and upper shrouds presented no problems at all, but 4 intermediate shrouds which are supporting mast near inner stay (2 on each side) have obsolete T terminals which are no longer made. I wonder how much, considering their good appearance, I may compromise the integrity of the mast if I don't replace old intermediate shrouds.
Any comments, advises will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Advise on standing rigging

I was told by roger long on another sight the lowers can carry as much as 55% of the load depending a rigs design

On my Cal 29 the uppers are single 3/16 and the lowers are double 7/32 something (there bigger)which would seem to mean they doing a LOT of work
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Re: Advise on standing rigging

Hi tommays I believe your lowers are 5/32 according to Cal info! anyway ntolst I just checked with rigging only and they said to take a pick and measure opening size on your mast, and they said they should be able to make a Gibb set up work, because the one you have appears to be from France, which makes it cost prohibitive to get!
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Re: Advise on standing rigging

I would call a rigging company. Try riggingonly.com in MA. They helped me upgrade the rigging on my Alberg 30. I am sure there are companies ot there that could help. They may have NOS(NEW OLD STOCK) of the fittings you need. You may also try to have an adapter made that will let you put on a newer more common fitting.....just some ideas

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Re: Advise on standing rigging

Mike, I gave them exact measurement of upper bar of T terminal which is 1 -3/8" long and 1/2" diameter so the opening on the mast is the same size or a tiny fraction larger for it to be inserted there. Hopefully they will find the replacement. If not, however, I wonder how critical would be to replace those shrouds if the rest of the rigging is new.
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Re: Advise on standing rigging

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If not, however, I wonder how critical would be to replace those shrouds if the rest of the rigging is new.
Put it this way.. if you don't replace them with the rest they'll be the weak point and you'll forget all about it. In years to come if you're out there in a blow and the old wire goes, you'll compromise your entire rig.

Are you pulling the mast out?? My suggestion would be that you do. If you do, it'd be very easy for a rigger to replace the T terminal on the ground and at the same time check out the rest of the mast (wiring, lights, spreaders, sheaves, etc.) fixing anything else that might be lurking in the background...
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Put it this way.. if you don't replace them with the rest they'll be the weak point and you'll forget all about it.
... or you WON'T forget about it and fret forever more..
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... or you WON'T forget about it and fret forever more..
Hehehehe... Too true!
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