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Re: Topsides going from 'White' to flag blue

Apparently you guys have months to stand in the driveway because a hand powered long board has to be about the slowest most labor intensive device ever made

Once your trying to fair large areas of fiberglass it is some tough stuff

Even when i was using the air powered long board it was forever and a little bit more

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Re: Topsides going from 'White' to flag blue

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Apparently you guys have months to stand in the driveway because a hand powered long board has to be about the slowest most labor intensive device ever made.
So... what's the solution? I was just planning on patching the scratches, and going over it with a RA sander, prime, repeat...

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Re: Topsides going from 'White' to flag blue

The solution is to do a paint job that makes sense from a time and money standpoint

You will absolutely never get that hull fair enough so that flag blue does NOT show every imperfection

The filling thing is in it self problematic in that you have this giant twisting hunk of fiberglass that at some point in the future is going to eject any filler that was not done just exactly perfect

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Apparently you guys have months to stand in the driveway because a hand powered long board has to be about the slowest most labor intensive device ever made

Once your trying to fair large areas of fiberglass it is some tough stuff

Even when i was using the air powered long board it was forever and a little bit more
It's what you have to do if you want a Flag Blue or black hull to look really good - there's no easy way to accomplish it. That's one of the reasons most boats are white. An air board sander is a poor choice for this job - it's designed to flatten surfaces like a belt sander. It's far too rigid for compound curves. You'd be better off using a big rotary with a thick, medium soft foam pad.

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Re: Topsides going from 'White' to flag blue

Using a RO sander is likely to leave highs and lows, esp if you're not careful how you try to take off high filler spots... don't ask how I know this....

I agree totally that if you want flag blue to look good the hull has to be PERFECT, esp if you're able to achieve a high gloss finish. You could try something like Whisper Grey.. a more forgiving colour but different enough to stand out amongst the other bleach bottles..

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Re: Topsides going from 'White' to flag blue

We're actually in the middle of this exact task right now! First, we decided to lighten ours just a tad using the white Brightsides we had for our deck. We've been roll and tipping with another roller, not a brush and have had great results so far. We're two coats in right now. We'll likely need to do 4 coats as it's hard to cover the white evenly. If you haven't started yet I would recommend you tint the primer. Get your hull as fair as possible and sand the hell out of it - dark paint shows any imperfections. Our boat is in Florida and we've been painting only when it's 60+ degrees and winds less than 9mph. Word of advice, don't use any accelerator as Brightsides is chemically designed to dry slower and spread out to avoid the orange peel look - or so Interlux told us.

I'll post pics for you once she's done. We've been taking them after each coat. We must be doing something right as a bunch of boaters have stopped by and told us the paint job looks great already.

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I'm also planning on painting the topsides this spring. Curious if anyone has used Interlux Perfection. Is the application the same as Brightsides? I'm going to keep the hull, deck and cockpit white. The non-skid areas will be light gray or blue.
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I did this project 4 years ago with Perfection and was very happy with the results. Yes you can see imperfections when you get close, but she looks beautiful from a distance. I removed all hardware and did the deck and topsides in one spring project. Had the boat inside and had three people to do the job. After weeks of prep work each coat of roll and tip took 45 minutes to do a 28' boat. Used scaffolding on wheels to move the 'tipper'.
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.. For many of us, I suspect that 'good from afar, but far from good' will probably do!
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Re: Topsides going from 'White' to flag blue

One of my earliest lessons in boat maintenance was that boats should look good from 10', not 1' away. Those of us with high intensity OCD want our boats to look as good as cars.

It's a virtually impossible goal with a sailboat. A little more possible with power since they can be kept in boathouses.

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