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If you want to use tires get them from the airport , no wire, not raidials & a better size....Dale
Good point, I was thinking if the radial wires come out, they could do a nice wire brushing of your hull.
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The plan was to leave them at the dock. I did a test a few weeks back to see how I could tie them off. You are right, they are very heavy and something you want to leave on the dock.
Many years ago we used tires on our commercial salmon troller. Instead of tying them onto the boat we fastened then to the piling, no floats, via a line through a block which was fastened to the top of the piling, so the tire stayed with the boat as it went up & down with the tide. Yes, they will mark the boat but as we had "rub strakes" so it didn't mark the planking. They do a good job of buffering any impact.

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Re: Tires as Fenders

No one has commented on whether fender boards combined with fenders might provide more protection? Also, maybe the municipal harbor would let you line the pier with running track surface, fire hose material, or something similar... or perhaps you could wrap the tires with something like fire hose fabric.
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No one has commented on whether fender boards combined with fenders might provide more protection? Also, maybe the municipal harbor would let you line the pier with running track surface, fire hose material, or something similar... or perhaps you could wrap the tires with something like fire hose fabric.
I am on a floating dock, which makes things easier. I can fix the tire to the dock and it will always fend the boat at the same position no matter what the tide (same with the taylor fenders I am now using- the main fender is tied of horozontally to the cleat on the dock). The dock does have a fending rub strip the full length, which is nice for small bumps, but not when the harbor really starts rocking and rolling.

As far as fender boards, I think they are used to span one piling to another, since my dock is a continuous floating dock, we do not have exposed pilings and no need for a fender board.

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[QUOTE=klem;1004371]On larger commercial vessels and tugs, tires are routinely used as fenders.
This is how tiger mosquitoes found rides to distant ports and came to like it in the new land.
That said drill holes and do not trap water in old tires. It is hard to get an old tire not to hold rain water this and just the looks is why I think they came to be hated as a fender imho. It is good to find a use for a discarded item. Kind regards, Lou
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You could stop by a golf course and get some golf cart tires. Link them together to get the appropriate size. They are softer and no wires. It may work.
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Re: Tires as Fenders

Talk to your slip neighbour... To your mutual benefit you could set up a couple of heavy duty bungee cords between the two boats, holding them both off the dock except for the times that one of you is away. If the space is adequate you won't need fenders between the boats, each boat can be tied so as to be a foot off the dock, and the bungees maintaining tension and the gap between boats is limited by your own dock lines.

When your neighbour is away for a time run the same idea across to the other finger.. you just need his/her agreement and cooperation but it shouldn't be a hard sell. We did this before after a fresh paint job.. didn't want fender rub and it worked for us both.

Raw tires are just wicked nasty.. covered tires works well but most marinas won't allow such heavy add-ons.
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Re: Tires as Fenders

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If you decide to leave the tires at the dock, I would recommend retying them to the boat when you get back. If they are securely tied to the boat, it will scuff your topsides a lot less as there will be much less relative movement between them and your topsides. If you tie them to the dock, your boat will have a lot of relative movement and it will make the aesthetic issue much worse.

I have never seen the steel belting come out of a tire but I could certainly see it happening. The worst thing that I have seen was someone who used studded tires without realizing it on a wooden boat. We used to use fenders in the summer and tires for the winter so the scuffing wasn't a big deal for us as things would get painted as soon as spring rolled around.
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If you are in a double wide slip with a floating dock, then you are tied on one side (let's say port) and your neighbor is tied on his starboard side. Tie the boats together! Run just one line from a cleat on your boat to a cleat on your neighbor's with just enough tension to keep you both off your respective docks. Ask first, of course. This was common practice in a marina I was in many years ago, and I have been doing it where I am presently for over a decade. It helps both boats and is pretty effective.
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If you are in a double wide slip with a floating dock, then you are tied on one side (let's say port) and your neighbor is tied on his starboard side. Tie the boats together! Run just one line from a cleat on your boat to a cleat on your neighbor's with just enough tension to keep you both off your respective docks. Ask first, of course. This was common practice in a marina I was in many years ago, and I have been doing it where I am presently for over a decade. It helps both boats and is pretty effective.
On the lines of what Faster recommended. I like Faster's idea of using a bungee, it may be the solution of what I was concerned about. Neighbors boat is a Nordic 44 and weighs probably 3 or 4 times what mine weighs. We get a raelly bad ground swell that at times can make its way into the harbor (waves can be breaking with 50 foot faces just outside the harbor). When that happens, boats are moving as well as the docks (since they are floating). If I tie to neighbors boat, that boat could be moving opposite direction as mine, and when a common line were to go tight, would rip the cleat off my boat (the Nordic 44 cleats are much stonger than mine). The bungee might work, but then again when things really start to move, best is to just be tied up somewhat close to the dock (with fenders) and ride it out that way. If I have too much slack in the dock lines, then the boat moves around too much, building a lot of momentum, before reaching the limit of the dock line. I do have line snubbers in all my dock lines to try to relieve some of the stress on lines and cleats.
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