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Re: Tires as Fenders

As far as tires, I saw how smack lost his boat. Was wondering how the boats would have fared if the dock had tires tied to where the boats bows made contact. I am thinking of doing this in case I break a dock line and the bow starts contacting the pier (I go bow in). Might buy some time before the bow is heavily damaged. Would also help me on my not so perfect docking manuvers.
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As far as tires, I saw how smack lost his boat. Was wondering how the boats would have fared if the dock had tires tied to where the boats bows made contact. I am thinking of doing this in case I break a dock line and the bow starts contacting the pier (I go bow in). Might buy some time before the bow is heavily damaged. Would also help me on my not so perfect docking manuvers.
I have seen the surge in the harnors in Niwilliwilli and also in Lahina and how they can really big dramatic. What about a large fender board with fenders on both sides. It would cushion the shock doubly. They work well on fixed docks. In your case you may want to attach the fender board to the edge of the floating dock with cleats. Having fenders of both side of the board amkes it like the Nascar safer barrier in theat it gives and the soick compresses on both sdes at contact.
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I have seen the surge in the harnors in Niwilliwilli and also in Lahina and how they can really big dramatic. What about a large fender board with fenders on both sides. It would cushion the shock doubly. They work well on fixed docks. In your case you may want to attach the fender board to the edge of the floating dock with cleats. Having fenders of both side of the board amkes it like the Nascar safer barrier in theat it gives and the soick compresses on both sdes at contact.
Chef may be on to something here. While fender boards are typically used to bridge pilings that a fender would slip past, they also distribute the load across more than one fender. If you're have unusual pinning against your floating dock, there may be something to spreading it out. Often, one or two fenders take the brunt.

I put out six fenders, when only two take most of the pressure under normal conditions. I rotate which two are in that position, so they don't wear more quickly.
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Chef may be on to something here. While fender boards are typically used to bridge pilings that a fender would slip past, they also distribute the load across more than one fender. If you're have unusual pinning against your floating dock, there may be something to spreading it out. Often, one or two fenders take the brunt.

I put out six fenders, when only two take most of the pressure under normal conditions. I rotate which two are in that position, so they don't wear more quickly.
They way I do it now, I have use three of the Big B (10 " X 30"). One is horozontal tied off at pier and I have two vertical tied off at the base of a stanchion post on the boat. The one horozontal at pier would handle all impacts on its own, but I have two verticals just to help, and to take over in case the horozontal deflates.

This all works well, but as with any dock, there are eges that wear away at the fenders. I do rotate the fenders and change height, but after three years one has developed a leak- I think it is a defect (looks like an internal split) and will try to return for exchange. If you read the Taylor warranty, they do not cover wear damage- which you might get by rubbing, nor would they cover a puncture damage. Using a fender board could help by distributing the pressure points. The thought on the tires is they are cheap, would not deflate during a storm when you need protection most, and if they wear, they are cheap to replace. I see the down side however.
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I wonder if West Marine's no question asked return policy works for a worn out fender? Probably not.
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I wonder if West Marine's no question asked return policy works for a worn out fender? Probably not.
I had bought the fenders from wm mail order. Few weeks ago I called them and they said they would send me a replacement. Then, a few minutes later they called back and said I needed to go directly through Taylor. I called Taylor and asked if I could return it to my local wm store for exchange. Taylor said I could. I will attempt to do that. WM is getting harder to deal with (as most stores are tightening there return and warraty policy- not just wm, to save on the bottom line). I have not had a chance to get to the WM, but I will try. Hope they exchange without a problem. If I need to mail to Taylor for exchange, shipping will be the cost of a new fender- probably about $90 as everthing into and out of Hawaii goes air freight. Shipping cost to Hawaii generally runs the cost of the item. I try to buy local because of that. WM did have a flat rate of $20 for shipping for all your items to Hawaii- I think even that has now changed.
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If the fender is not punctured, it can only be leaking from the stem. I would press on that being warranty. It's a minor burst.
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If the fender is not punctured, it can only be leaking from the stem. I would press on that being warranty. It's a minor burst.
The leak is through a crack. By feel I can tell the crack started from within the fender and moved out to the outside of the fender where it broke through. At that point it made a pin hole leak. Hope this is considered splitting and hope it will be covered under warranty. Warranty only covers splitting and bursting.
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Re: Tires as Fenders

I've been using tyres as fenders for decades. I wouldn't consider buying a fender. I cut them into three sections and stuff them each inside of the next to a total of three sections. I cut out the wire around the centre and put a hole in the bottom and tie a rope thru the hole. Three sections give you far more cushioning than one. and they sink when you tie alongside a log boom ,making them far more effective than floating fenders. And they last forever. Painting them the colour of your hull eliminates scuff marks, altho scuff marks can be easily cleaned off with gasoline or diesel fuel.
I wouldn't want to be seen in a marina so childishly snobby as to ban tyres for fenders. That would be embarrassing.
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If that's not splitting, what is.
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