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hillenme 03-22-2013 08:33 PM

New Vinyl
 
I have two spring projects, buff and wax and replace vinyl lettering. I plan to compound, polish and wax. My question is when should i apply the lettering? My thought is it would be better to do this not on top of the wax. Is this correct or does it not matter? Do my polishing, apply letters and then wax?

SchockT 03-23-2013 04:09 AM

Re: New Vinyl
 
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Originally Posted by hillenme (Post 1006452)
I have two spring projects, buff and wax and replace vinyl lettering. I plan to compound, polish and wax. My question is when should i apply the lettering? My thought is it would be better to do this not on top of the wax. Is this correct or does it not matter? Do my polishing, apply letters and then wax?

You definitely want a completely wax free surface for your vinyl, but you will want to polish out any trace of the old lettering. (unless the new is identical)
Clean the area with alcohol before applying the new ones.

macwester26 03-23-2013 05:23 AM

Re: New Vinyl
 
Hi hillenme.
as member SchockT has said

Wash and wax the whole job.
clean wax finish away with Alcohol or washing up liquid The Lemon one works better.
Then Apply your lettering .Remove The tape or pencil marks you have used in order to keep the lettering in the required position.

Then wash the entire lettered area and apply wax by hand.
A soft cloth to polish off the wax.

Being carefull not to lift any corners of the lettering.


Robert

SchockT 03-23-2013 07:58 PM

Re: New Vinyl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macwester26 (Post 1006565)
Hi hillenme.
as member SchockT has said

Wash and wax the whole job.
clean wax finish away with Alcohol or washing up liquid The Lemon one works better.
Then Apply your lettering .Remove The tape or pencil marks you have used in order to keep the lettering in the required position.

Then wash the entire lettered area and apply wax by hand.
A soft cloth to polish off the wax.

Being carefull not to lift any corners of the lettering.


Robert

Actually I would avoid waxing the area the vinyl is going, because there is always the chance you might not get it all off again. Just wax everything BUT the name area. Also, avoid using soaps on the area as they can leave residue behind that will affect adhesion. The reason you use alcohol (not rubbing alcohol-it has oil in it) is because it evaporates away without residue.

hillenme 03-23-2013 11:51 PM

Robert[/quote]

Actually I would avoid waxing the area the vinyl is going, because there is always the chance you might not get it all off again. Just wax everything BUT the name area. Also, avoid using soaps on the area as they can leave residue behind that will affect adhesion. The reason you use alcohol (not rubbing alcohol-it has oil in it) is because it evaporates away without residue.[/QUOTE]

Can't i just not do any waxing at all until after i out the letters on? As opposed to removing it or trying to avoid the application area?

SchockT 03-24-2013 02:30 AM

Re: New Vinyl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hillenme (Post 1006917)
Robert

Actually I would avoid waxing the area the vinyl is going, because there is always the chance you might not get it all off again. Just wax everything BUT the name area. Also, avoid using soaps on the area as they can leave residue behind that will affect adhesion. The reason you use alcohol (not rubbing alcohol-it has oil in it) is because it evaporates away without residue.[/QUOTE]

Can't i just not do any waxing at all until after i out the letters on? As opposed to removing it or trying to avoid the application area?[/QUOTE]

Of course you can! But you do want to polish the area, particularly if the surface has oxidation.

hillenme 03-24-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SchockT:1006946
Quote:

Originally Posted by hillenme (Post 1006917)
Robert

Of course you can! But you do want to polish the area, particularly if the surface has oxidation.

Prefect! Yes, it all needs a polish. And, as i think was mentioned above, it's the only way I'm going to get rid of all trace of the old ones. A razor blade and goo gone were a good start yesterday, but the level off oxidation is much different under the letters, of course, that it looks like they are still there!
Is there a good product that removes vinyl without damaging the gel coat? Or do i just stick with a razor and elbow grease?

Thanks!

Erik

campuscab 03-24-2013 03:29 PM

Lettering
 
I had a taxi company for 12 years so I have lettered more vehicles than I wanted. Removal of the old letters get tjem warm but not hot, be careful with a razor not to scratch the surface. Goof off works well or.citrus gel for cleaning. If you have a shadow use.polishing.compound a or a cleaner wax. As for waxing I have done both ways.and letters have stayed.on. A good coat off wax protects the paint if you change it. We would put prices on the cars that would change often. Just make sure it is clean and free of grease. I would letter dry using tape as a hinge or wet with a solution of soapy water for larger jobs but you will have more bubbles to squeegee out that way.

hillenme 03-25-2013 01:57 PM

Re: New Vinyl
 
Thanks for the advice guys! One last question on this subject.

Dewaxing? Can you recommend a specific name brand? I browsed home depot for some sort of toluene and couldn't find any (or an employee who could find it). Where can I find this, or what else will work?

rhr1956 03-26-2013 04:25 PM

Re: New Vinyl
 
I did it all wrong! I waxed first, then sprayed the surface with water and applied the lettering. The water allowed me to slide the letters around a little. Then I squeggied (?) the air out. Worked perfect. Today...two years later...they are "stuck like chuck".


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