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How do they keep it from eating the steel hulls?
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A primer? An epoxy primer, perhaps?
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No VOC or low VOC coatings are a joke. I get eliminating tin and reducing copper which can be toxic to marine life but low VOC? First off, low VOC means low non-exempt VOCs. Do you realize acetone is an EXEMPT VOC. Yes that's right, it is exempt because the cosmetics industry lobbied to exempt it. Ever notice the sweet smell in some of the new low VOC paints?

Low VOC does not always mean it is safer for you to work with. It just means it does not emit an ozone depleting organic compound.

The real reason the EPA regulates paint so heavily is that it is a visible industry which can be regulated and taxed. Some pretty good arguments have been made that the net sum of methane gas (VOC) from dog and cats farting exceeds that of paint by a large amount. Nobody is talking about eliminating dogs and cats to help out the environment. Don't even get me started about cows.
Lowering VOC emissions might be considered "a joke" but the coatings themselves are not. They work quite well.

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The real reason the EPA regulates paint so heavily is that it is a visible industry which can be regulated and taxed. Some pretty good arguments have been made that the net sum of methane gas (VOC) from dog and cats farting exceeds that of paint by a large amount. Nobody is talking about eliminating dogs and cats to help out the environment. Don't even get me started about cows.

Paint is a very visable industry.. because on any given week, there are millions of boats, cars, and homes being painted. Not to mention furniture, planes, toys, models.. almost anything. That is a LOT of volitile fumes being given off at any one time...

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Yeah, but it's so much easier to bitch about cow farts than to actually accept that the old way ain't necessarily the best way.
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I used to use TBTF. Found it useless compared to copper. I use a good epoxy barrier coat under it on the rare occasions when I use antifouling , twice in 29 years.Glad I live on a twin keeler in an area of 17 ft tides. I find the US easy to avoid when sailing south.

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