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Winches, new equivalents to old

Has anyone ever published a chart or guide to which currently available winches are equivalent to old/orphaned sheet winches? What are the options for replacing say, a Barient 36 with something else (Lewmar 64/66m Harken 48-ish or bigger??)... besides just measuring, trying to calculate loads, looking at line sizes handled, talking to supplier, or just starting from the sailplan and looking a current manufacturer sizing charts.

I tried a search and haven't found what I'm looking for...yet. Even some of the old service manuals don't give useful info, and I've only seen a couple of individual comparisons for a few smaller winches.
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Re: Winches, new equivalents to old

The problem is that winch numbers are model numbers. They have at best a loose correlation with power.

The number you need is the power rating for both winches which is somewhere in the technical numbers, and describes how much leverage the winch gives you. When replacing winches these numbers need to match.

The Barrient 36 is I believe 39:1. So you would be looking at a Harken 40-st.

You also need to look at the line size, and max load since some small high power winches may not be up to use as primaries.

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Re: Winches, new equivalents to old

I think the OP is correct. A Barient 36 is a very big winch, equivalent to a Lewmar 65.

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Re: Winches, new equivalents to old

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You may be correct. I have found data going both ways.

On the Harken 66.2 the ratios are 25:1 and 66:1.

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Re: Winches, new equivalents to old

KS was trying to give you a link.. this may work.

Identifying Barient, Barlow and Masport Barlow Sheet Winches | Kiwi Yachting Consultants

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Re: Winches, new equivalents to old

Don't know whether anything in here is useful to you.

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