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Question FJ in need of blocks, newbie at helm. Help!

Hi everyone!

I'm fairly new to the forum, and I thank everyone for their warm welcome in the 'introduce yourself' section I made my first appearance in.

I'm the proud new owner of a 1966 Advance Flying Junior, and yes, it is red. I took it for its maiden two weeks ago, and only flew the main. I've only been sailing about a year, so still trying to get the hang of things before I go full-on and hoist the jib.

Anyways, my boat is completely as it came in 1966. It sat in storage for 25+ years, so it's comprehensively lacking in rigging. Basically, all I have is a cleat on the centerboard trunk....

After sailing some newer Laser Picos a bit, I'm spoiled by nicer hardware, as my boat only has two boom blocks, no boom vang, and no traveler.

Any suggestions on where I should start, and what sizing of blocks I should look for?

Any help much appreciated.
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Re: FJ in need of blocks, newbie at helm. Help!

For starters check out Annapolis Performance Sailing: APS - Cub Junior / FJ Sailboat Parts and Accessories
They have the a 1 Design section for the FJ and you should be able to find out what size hardware is typically used on your boat.
They are not cheap but then neither is West Marine.
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Re: FJ in need of blocks, newbie at helm. Help!

Brilliant!

That's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, as it eliminates a lot of the guesswork I would surely get wrong.

There's a million different types and sizes of rigging/gear, and I sure don't have enough experience yet to know what I need.

Thanks so much for your help!
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Re: FJ in need of blocks, newbie at helm. Help!

Blocks are cheap and easy to build yourself. Cut the cheeks out of scrap aluminium at $2 a pound, cut your sheaves out of cutting board material with a hole saw, file a groove in them and use a bolt for the pin, and you have a far better, stronger and more reliable block a than any billionare could buy. I once timed myself building a single block, using only hand tools. It took me 20 minutes ,less time than it takes to go buy one. It cost me under $2.
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Uh, ok, but blocks for a dink can be found at your local hardware store for just a few bucks. I'd rather spend my time sailing, fishing, etc
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Blocks are cheap and easy to build yourself. Cut the cheeks out of scrap aluminium at $2 a pound, cut your sheaves out of cutting board material with a hole saw, file a groove in them and use a bolt for the pin, and you have a far better, stronger and more reliable block a than any billionare could buy. I once timed myself building a single block, using only hand tools. It took me 20 minutes ,less time than it takes to go buy one. It cost me under $2.
lol, here we go again...
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lol, here we go again...
Indeed!

Unfortunately for RedCFJSailor he wont know of the many other times that Brent has posted about making his own $2 blocks. He is kind of the resident "make your own $2 blocks" comedian.
In truth though I absolutely believe that he does make his own blocks and I believe that it is possible with the right tools, materials and whatnot.
Most of us wont bother with this sort of effort though.

Most people wont make their own sail repairs sewing by hand either. So far this spring I have a bout 30 hours into sewing up the leach line on our genoa and repairing tears in it about spreader height. With a machine it might have taken 3 hours max but I don't have a sewing machine, so I am sewing by hand. New genoa soon I hope.

@RedCFJSailor -
The APS link is a good one. I suggest you note down the specs for the equipment you'll need at their website and shop around a bit online.
Other places to check for this kind of hardware:
Garhauer Garhauer Marine Hardware -6055481
Defender Discount Marine and Boat Supplies - Inflatable Sales - Defender
or your other favorite online or real chandlery.

Most of all have fun with your FJ. It looks like a great dinghy racer and would be great if you outfitted it as you seem to intend to.
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Your boat probably never had a traveller, my 1974 doesn't.
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Indeed!

Unfortunately for RedCFJSailor he wont know of the many other times that Brent has posted about making his own $2 blocks. He is kind of the resident "make your own $2 blocks" comedian.
In truth though I absolutely believe that he does make his own blocks and I believe that it is possible with the right tools, materials and whatnot.
Most of us wont bother with this sort of effort though.

Most people wont make their own sail repairs sewing by hand either. So far this spring I have a bout 30 hours into sewing up the leach line on our genoa and repairing tears in it about spreader height. With a machine it might have taken 3 hours max but I don't have a sewing machine, so I am sewing by hand. New genoa soon I hope.

@RedCFJSailor -
The APS link is a good one. I suggest you note down the specs for the equipment you'll need at their website and shop around a bit online.
Other places to check for this kind of hardware:
Garhauer Garhauer Marine Hardware -6055481
Defender Discount Marine and Boat Supplies - Inflatable Sales - Defender
or your other favorite online or real chandlery.

Most of all have fun with your FJ. It looks like a great dinghy racer and would be great if you outfitted it as you seem to intend to.
I think the real "Comedian" is the super dense and gullible guy who tells you that commercially made "style over substance" type blocks at $30 each are your only option, or that such flimsy contraptions are actually stronger than 3/16th aluminium ones with solid sheaves, and 3/8th inch solid stainless pins. Or maybe he is the guy tryying to sell commercially made $30 flimsy blocks and can't compete with practicality, so doesnt want anyone to know of affordable alternatives.

My hand craked sewing machine has paid for itself many times over, one of the handiest machines one can have aboard. It lets you reinforce things well before they tear, adding many years to a sail. I wouldn't be without it.
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