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Painting question 1980 30 ft Seafarer

Ok... I do not like paint on a fiberglass boat... but its already painted a hunter green. It was not my doing and besides he roller-ed it. It's my intent to rework that hull and repaint a deep midnight blue, white deck (might just leave along it still gel cote), dark grey anti fouling bottom paint.

But for the hull above the water line... I have not seen any marine paint in a color I want. I have painted many vehicles and I'm pretty good at it. My vehicles live outside... bake in the sun, 75 mph rains and wind for hours, salt and road grime during the winter too. This leads to the question. Isn't that about the same toughness required as above the water marine environment?

Just wondering what any of you think.

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Re: Painting question 1980 30 ft Seafarer

I'd argue that the paint on a boat is subject to more abuse. For example you don't press PVC fenders into the paintwork, or drive your dinghy into the side of your car, or walk all over your car for that matter. If in salt water, salt crystals are like little grains of sand that can conspire together 24/7 over time to scratch the paintwork. Then there is also the constant exposure to water and sunlight (including sunlight reflected off the surface of the water). It may also not be possible to polish the finish on a regular basis.

Having said that there are single and two pack paint systems for boat decks and topsides. Single pack paints are really not suitable for a fibreglass boat imo. I'd also be wary of Automotive two packs as, too me, they are optimised for a lustrous appearance and usually are complimented with an overlay of protective clear coat. This leaves specialised paints specific for boats or industrial polyurethane two packs. Paints developed for marine applications are guaranteed to work but can be relatively expensive. Industrial polyurethane two pack paints would be my choice for a cheaper alternative. Painting in a dark colour may mean needing to spray the paint for best finish if rolling and tipping leaves too rough a finish by your standards. I'd also think that there wouldn't be too many problems obtaining an industrial paint in a colour of your choice.
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Re: Painting question 1980 30 ft Seafarer

it's your boat, your idea, why's not you go with a nice candy apple red? LOL
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Painting question 1980 30 ft Seafarer

Personally, I can't see a big difference between demands on a car an the boat hull (topsides).

Decks however are a different story. Do not paint the deck unless you really need to. Not only is it far harder to paint, but it takes by far the most abuse.

My decks are painted already and it's a nightmare to contemplate re-painting them.
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Re: Painting question 1980 30 ft Seafarer

Candy apple red.... hummm. Maybe a little bright for this conservative... but who knows what wild hair may possess me... I bought the boat didn't I but thats a different story?

Denise... Bristol PA, know it well and spent time on the Delaware with a small runabout in my teenage years. The incoming tidal surge waves were always fun to play on. Grew up in Washington's Crossing area in the mid 50s to early 70s..

BTW... the deck is not painted and the gel cote is good. I do not know why the previous owner painted. The hunter green is an ok color but it was roller-ed and has no luster. Figure if I need to get into it, I'd make it what I want in a color. Deep midnight blue not quite black with a slight purple twinge in the right light. Seen that on a couple show cars... although I do not know what it takes to do that... will be researching.

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Re: Painting question 1980 30 ft Seafarer

Dave,

I just painted the non-skid on my Pearson 30. It wasn't hard, just time consuming (very). I used Interlux Pre Cote and 2 coats of Interdeck. Taping, sanding, wiping w/solvent then painting. Hope I don't have to do that again. But it was well worth the effort. Looks great.
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Re: Painting question 1980 30 ft Seafarer

I just painted the topsides of my Edel. It had been previously painted and you could see brush, roller marks and bubbles. I first sanded with an orbital sander which did not really do the job I wanted. I then hand sanded with 50 / 80 / 200 / 320. Hand sanding for me worked much better. You could hear the "schwissh,schwissh" of the sandpaper working and as the noise decreased the surface was smoother. You could "hear" the rough spots.

I then rolled and tipped Brightsides (1 part).

It came out mostly good but next time:
1. I will not use a bristle brush (left some brush lines when paint got thick)
2. Will not use foam brushes from dollar store. After the fact I looked at the Lowes foam brushes and they are 200% better / smoother foam.

After haul out or next spring I am going to sand down the problem areas that I am not happy with and then reapply one coat. I still have most of a can of Brightsides left and it should do my 22' Edel. I actually found the whole process easy and quite satisfying.

My next boat will be perfect once I am done practicing on this one.
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My next boat will be perfect once I am done practicing on this one.
Hummm... and how many practice boats has it been? I've had 5 boats over the past 40 years (still have the first one and the last one) ... not perfect yet, but getting better at it. The statement above made me chuckle .

Since I picked up spray painting equipment some years back (shop has 6 hp 60 gal compressed air) I hardly ever paint with a brush anymore and thus spoiled myself. Yes the shop has finally grew to where I wanted it to be... but it took forty years.

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Hummm... and how many practice boats has it been?
Dave
This is my first practice boat...I need to convince my friends to tackle the same paint jobs and I will "help" them.

I missed mentioning that with the roll and tip I had trouble getting the overlap areas to be smooth. I would roll a foot wide strip and then tip it. I think a helper would have been good to let them immediately step in to tip and let them clean the brushes while I rolled the next area.

The Brightsides paint is surprisingly very runny although it can cover well.
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