New mainsheet - recommendations - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-28-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SW PA
Posts: 102
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
oomfh is on a distinguished road
New mainsheet - recommendations

Time to replace the 3/8" mainsheet on my Catalian 25. Natually I will be using a dacron double braid, UV resistant. I have a couple-three questions:

(1) Any brand that is heads and shoulders above the rest?

(2) I am changing from a 3:1 to a 4:1 system. The length I need to add would be the distance between both blocks when I am on a run?

(3) Are dark colored lines more susceptable to UV damage than light colored lines?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 05-28-2013
Alex W's Avatar
always busy with sailing
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,071
Thanks: 2
Thanked 121 Times in 116 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Alex W is on a distinguished road
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

1) Samson XLS, Samson LS, or NE Ropes Sta-Set are all good options. I would avoid Cajun/Novabraid/Novatech XLE which has about double the stretch. That's not the end of the world in this application, but Samson LS is about the same price and better line.

2) Do you use the mainsheet to lower your mast? If not 50' is a good length for the mainsheet on a Catalina 25 with a 4:1 tackle. The factory recommends a longer mainsheet (I think it is 75'), but that gives you enough extra to use the mainsheet to lower the mast, using the boom as a gin pole.

3) I have no idea. They do generally cost slightly more.
__________________
boats that I sail on regularly: Pearson 28-2, Rondar 505, Yankee 30, Blanchard Junior
Seattle, WA
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 05-28-2013
Alex W's Avatar
always busy with sailing
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,071
Thanks: 2
Thanked 121 Times in 116 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Alex W is on a distinguished road
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

I should add that my length recommendation is based on using the stock end-boom sheeting setup. If you have a traveler mounted in front of the companionway or over then you'll probably need an even shorter mainsheet.
__________________
boats that I sail on regularly: Pearson 28-2, Rondar 505, Yankee 30, Blanchard Junior
Seattle, WA
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 05-28-2013
deltaten's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Lancaster Co. PA/ North East, MD
Posts: 644
Thanks: 4
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 2
deltaten is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Yahoo to deltaten
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

I spent inordinate amounts of time and research this past winter asking the same questions as you.

I ended up with Sta-Set 3/8" DB in dark blue. I find it to hand well, lay nice and has very little stretch. I calculated that at 85 degrees out, on a DDW run, my boom-to-center transom measurement X 4 was near to 70 feet. I had the rigger add 5 feet to have enuff. I am happy to report that I did a DW run wing-on-wing on Monday and *did* need most all of that length!

Trevor at Harney Rigging did me a solid deal on all my lines. Excellent work, great commo and super fast service; plus great pricing

HTH,
Paul
__________________
S/V Chrysalis
'80 Watkins 27
North East, MD
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 05-28-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 8,690
Thanks: 10
Thanked 113 Times in 107 Posts
Rep Power: 6
Minnewaska will become famous soon enough Minnewaska will become famous soon enough
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

I re-rigged with Samson XLS after some consideration, vetting and recommendation from a Practical Sailor comparison study. I hate the stuff.

It's slippery, it deforms and I don't even like the thread colors, which is probably due to my bad attitude on those first two characteristics. Nice hand feel and the study said it wears well. I've only had it one season and I'm abusing the daylights out of it, hoping I will need new sooner.

I will go back to New England Ropes next time. I was sold on the wear, as my last jib sheets wore out in 3 years. They take a lot of abuse around multiple stays. I think I won't get much more out of these anyway.
chef2sail likes this.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 05-28-2013
Alex W's Avatar
always busy with sailing
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,071
Thanks: 2
Thanked 121 Times in 116 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Alex W is on a distinguished road
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

In cam cleats I like the fact that it is slippery, it releases more easily from them than Sta-Set for me. I also find that the casing doesn't burn as easily as Sta-Set casing under high load.

It does feel different, it would be worth finding both in person to see which one you prefer.
__________________
boats that I sail on regularly: Pearson 28-2, Rondar 505, Yankee 30, Blanchard Junior
Seattle, WA
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 05-28-2013
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SW PA
Posts: 102
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
oomfh is on a distinguished road
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

Excellent information above . . .

Moving the traveler forward just in front of the companionway - part of the reason for changing to a 4:1.

Thanks all.

Oomfh
aka OJ, 1989 Catalina 25, hull #5822
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 05-29-2013
zz4gta's Avatar
I don't discuss my member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Posts: 2,420
Thanks: 0
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 7
zz4gta is on a distinguished road
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

oomfh,

Let me know if I can help, I supplied deltaten above with his rigging.
Take care,

Trevor Harney
Harney Yacht Rigging
__________________
Merit 25 # 764 "Audrey"
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 05-29-2013
Alex W's Avatar
always busy with sailing
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,071
Thanks: 2
Thanked 121 Times in 116 Posts
Rep Power: 2
Alex W is on a distinguished road
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

Are you also moving the mainsheet attachment on the boom forward? If so you could probably get away with a slightly shorter mainsheet. I'd still probably purchase 50', it's better to buy too much and cut off 5' then to buy too little and need to buy a longer one.

You can also just measure. Put the boom at it's farthest point forward (against the shrouds) and measure the distance from your traveler to the block on the boom. Multiply by 4, add about 5' for bowline, stopper knot, and excess to grab, and call it good.

I wish the Catalina 25 were better setup to have a traveler in that location. The stock one is a joke, but putting one up there makes a terrible tripline for people going below.

Do you plan on cutting the boom shorter? It's only so long to allow for end-boom sheeting.
__________________
boats that I sail on regularly: Pearson 28-2, Rondar 505, Yankee 30, Blanchard Junior
Seattle, WA
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 05-29-2013
zz4gta's Avatar
I don't discuss my member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chesapeake Bay
Posts: 2,420
Thanks: 0
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 7
zz4gta is on a distinguished road
Re: New mainsheet - recommendations

+1 the C25 traveler doesn't do anything. They could've just anchored it back there or actually spent some money and put a working trav in there. But most people out for a peaceful cruise aren't playing the traveler in the puffs.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
A better way to run the mainsheet.... MedSailor General Discussion (sailing related) 5 02-25-2012 03:44 PM
mainsheet traveler sailstein General Discussion (sailing related) 0 04-08-2010 03:16 PM
What should I use to cleat my mainsheet? soulfinger Gear & Maintenance 16 05-22-2009 11:56 PM
mainsheet Packrat Gear & Maintenance 5 08-08-2008 08:00 AM
Mainsheet car Buck General Discussion (sailing related) 1 02-21-2006 01:44 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:42 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012