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Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

I currently have a single 6" cleat for the anchor, which is centered on the bow of my 24' yankee dolphin (1971). i feel that it's too small, and have a really hard time getting 2 lines over it when at dock as the base is too small to pass a bite of rope through it, so i have to do a cleat hitch.
it's your average cleat with 4 bolt, and a beefy backing plate.

i think i have a few options:
1. leave it alone and go sailing
2. install a larger cleat in the center, one with a larger opening at the base. this might be a good option if i can get one that matches the holes.
3. take it out, patch the holes, install 2 cleats on either side of the center line of the bow.

my main question is: does the anchor cleat have to have 4 bolts, or can i use one with only 2? i was thinking of using two 8" versions of this:

vvv.schaefermarine.com/press/chock_cleats0503.html

i like the schaefers cause there is a lot less exposed screws, making for better bedding and waterproofing.

sorry that i can't post a link yet...i'll start posting more!

thanks for your input!
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Re: Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

Any cleat should be far stronger than the heaviest line you will ever use on it, including tow lines. That is why I prefer a mooring bit. The ones on my boats are mostly 90 tons sheer strength.
Putting them on the rail drastically reduces chafe.
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Re: Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

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I currently have a single 6" cleat for the anchor, which is centered on the bow of my 24' yankee dolphin (1971). i feel that it's too small, and have a really hard time getting 2 lines over it when at dock as the base is too small to pass a bite of rope through it, so i have to do a cleat hitch.
it's your average cleat with 4 bolt, and a beefy backing plate.

i think i have a few options:
1. leave it alone and go sailing
2. install a larger cleat in the center, one with a larger opening at the base. this might be a good option if i can get one that matches the holes.
3. take it out, patch the holes, install 2 cleats on either side of the center line of the bow.

my main question is: does the anchor cleat have to have 4 bolts, or can i use one with only 2? i was thinking of using two 8" versions of this:

vvv.schaefermarine.com/press/chock_cleats0503.html

i like the schaefers cause there is a lot less exposed screws, making for better bedding and waterproofing.

sorry that i can't post a link yet...i'll start posting more!

thanks for your input!
Use the 4 bolt versions - MUCH stronger mounting. Use a big backing plate as well since it will hold your anchor line. I prefer Herreshoff style cleats.
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Re: Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

Re bow cleat(s). I have two cleats - one on each side where line chocks would be mounted. First boat with this arrangement for me and I LOVE IT. Leaves the foredeck clear so jib sheets don't foul. Only problem I have with it is boat specific and that is lack of good backing plate inside and no room to put one of any size because the hull liner is in the way. They are just (appx.) 6" two bolt cleats but seem solid enough. My boat has stayed on it's mooring while others in the same cove have broken loose and one even lost it's mast in strong (real strong) winds.
For mooring I always use two lines, one to each cleat and if anchoring in strong winds I do the same.
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Re: Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

If you're trying to tie two lines over one cleat, have you tried splicing a loop in one line (or just tie a bowline) to lie over the cleat and tying the other with a cleat hitch over it?
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Re: Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

I would go with two 8" 4 bolt cleats.
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Re: Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

Thanks for the input, i hadn't thought of a few things- especially the forces associated with towing (though i wouldn't tie off to just one cleat in a towing situation).

i'll go with the 4 bolt version, certainly with a beefy backing plate. i doubt i can get them mounted on the rail, but i'll look into that this weekend.

thanks as always!
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Re: Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

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Thanks for the input, i hadn't thought of a few things- especially the forces associated with towing (though i wouldn't tie off to just one cleat in a towing situation).

i'll go with the 4 bolt version, certainly with a beefy backing plate. i doubt i can get them mounted on the rail, but i'll look into that this weekend.

thanks as always!
When (if) you're being towed you should secure the tow line around the mast and just use the cleats to lead the bridle - much stronger than tying the towline to the cleats.
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Re: Recommend Cleat for bow/anchor

Thanks for all the input- great as always!

I ended up going with two 8", 4 bolt herresoff cleats with 1/4" G10 backing plates. i also had to re-attach the chocks that had broken off, and thru-bolted those through the toerail with 1" fender washers to avoid the mistakes of the PO who failed to use sufficient hardware.

everything was bedded with butyl tape- thanks for the great write up Maine Sail!
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