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Where dreams go to die?

Are there any specific places in the world where it is more common than normal for boats to be left when someones dream to cruise around the world changes due to lack of planning or major life change.

If such a place exists maybe a boat could be acquired for less than north-american prices.

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I believe this place you speak of is our little harbour. Some boats just sit there year round and never move.

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Re: Where dreams go to die?

Key West, Madagascar, and Panama. People make it as far as key west from some where up the east coast and give up. I here Europeans get as far as Madagascar and decide it was'nt for them, I'm told there is a surplus of discarded boats there. Panama on the Carib. side. Lot of people make it that far and change their plans.
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I believe this place you speak of is our little harbour. Some boats just sit there year round and never move.
Yes same here. Unfortunately as far as I can tell a boat that has been neglected for even two years usually suffers so much damage that it's value is greatly reduced.

What I'm looking for is not long term neglect but either catastrophic or major change of plans. Death, birth, marriage, divorce or simply "I just don't like sailing".
Hopefully, for the boat, the change is drastic enough that the boat gets put up for sale before it loses much of its value.

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Are there any specific places in the world where it is more common than normal for boats to be left when someones dream to cruise around the world changes due to lack of planning or major life change.

If such a place exists maybe a boat could be acquired for less than north-american prices.
San Diego (AKA the "Port of Broken Dreams") and Honolulu. There, a friend of ours made a good living for several years buying boats at deep discounts from families that had managed to make it to Hawaii but either the wife, husband, or both, declared after that first leg that cruising wasn't what they envisioned and they would go no further and certainly not the trip back to the mainland. Our friend would buy the boats, make repairs as necessary, and sail them back to Seattle where they often sold the boats for double or more their investment.
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Re: Where dreams go to die?

boat yard tour

Ialways take my camera fora trip around the b oat yards I stay at

this is on the south bank of the Humber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdMriyOi_Xw

in my opinion though these boats are not dead dreams

for many of the blokes just owning a boat is enough of a dream ... lots of retired blokes who just look after them



some of them have done great journeys and they tell me ab out them and are content now to sit in the cockpit and drink tea away from the missus



when I started my journey back in 2005 I was in a very small boatyard packed with old wrecks in the corner.



I asked the owner why he gives space to these old boats



"people still pay me the rent" was his answer



"why" I said



"because it keeps the dream alive"



so I see them as dreams that are still going - maybe the blokes want no more, maybe they have had the dream and are savouring it.



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Re: Where dreams go to die?

I think if you look around any marina you will find "that" boat. Yes there are a lot of derelict and unused boats here in San Diego but the cost of keeping a boat in the water is very high. I can't imagine paying $600/mos to watch your dream wither.

I think you need to consider the opportunity costs of that boat sitting in Madagascar or Panama. First you need the money to get to there, buy the boat, then live there for 6 months to 2 years to get the boat seaworthy again.

I see boats all the time in Mexico, Panama or some tropical location at a good deal ready to go. These same boats are also 2 slips away from your current boat or maybe the marina next door. You can rename your new boat "Dream Phoenix"
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Re: Where dreams go to die?

Rio Dolce, Guatemala. Esp. Good if you like odd French boats, esp. metal.

Ala Wai Yacht basin.

Mazatlan, MX.

South Carolina.

And of course, all over Florida -- tho I personally would not buy a boat there. High percentage of low-percentage boats.
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Re: Where dreams go to die?

Gibraltar, Panama and Hawaii have long reputations for that very thing.

Probably any "first port" after an unavoidable long ocean passage would qualify
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Re: Where dreams go to die?

I agree with those above; Hawaii, especially Ala Wai and Honolulu in general. The 2200 mile trip to Hawaii, a non-stop ocean crossing, has dashed many more dreams than any other sail I know of. After about a year of trying to sell a broken dream boat there (some really nice cruising boats) for a reasonable amount, they sell cheap or if not, some abandon the boat; deals can be made!
But remember it's at least 2200 miles of non-stop ocean sailing (really more like 2500 to the US and 3000 to Tahiti) to another port.
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