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Re: 1972 tartan 30

I bought Synergy without a sail trial. I normally don't recommend doing that (especially you are buying the boat with every penny that you have.) In my case money was put in escrow to cover the transmission and the depth sounder until we could test them, and then retuirned when they turned out to be in good shape.

We tested the engine by putting the engine cooling water intake hose in a bucket and ran a garden hose to the bucket to keep it full and so we were able to run the engine for about 15 minutes or so and look for issues.

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4' of soft decks and the rudder having elevated moisture levels aren't major problems?

The Tartan 30 and similar Yankee 30 do have good engine access.
I would say that those are comparatively minor problems on a forty year old, $9,000 Boat with a diesel and decent sails...

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Re: 1972 tartan 30

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First i sail on a boat with a 12 year old saltwater used Beta and that motor has clearly had TONS of water dripped on it OR the boat flooded at some point and rusted up the rear main seal causing the oil leak


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It is pretty common for stored boats to flood form snow over the winter and do something like this and the green wood mold is a sign of much wetness


Paying to Pull the motor to fix oil the leak is a budget buster and the boat cant be used like THAT

I tend to agree you will not do much better one question is how the survey will be written up and how your insurance would interpret it


For example if he says the wet area of deck is delaminated they could mandate a repair before the boat can be used

They would most certainly take issue with original standing rigging
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Re: 1972 tartan 30

Just to add, the oil level is right in the middle of high and low, not under low. No idea of where he filled it to.
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Re: 1972 tartan 30

Just a note about oil leaks.. there have been a few discussions about crankcase breathers, blockage of and installed wrong.
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Re: 1972 tartan 30

OK, I am about to go mad. What is, no WTW is this stuff about crankcase breathers? Flippin A! I do agree about the engine apperance. Was the first thing I noted. Even mentioned it to the surveyor. Mentioned that it was more dirtier than what I was accustomed to and he just shruged it off.
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Re: 1972 tartan 30

I suppose the crankcase breather is a possibility. It it posssible that the owner filled the oil to half way between full and under full and it has not leaked any oil while on the hard. The oil in the bilge was dirty I am pretty sure. I do agree with the engine appearance. Just not sure how it would get wet being in the middle of the cabin unless it was dripping down the mast. The boat was nicely shrink wrapped. I guess its worth $200 to find out what the deal is.
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Re: 1972 tartan 30

You seem cool with all the other issues on this boat so as was posted already run it on the hard to identify the source of the oil.
You will have to clean it up first but all you will have invested is some time, the oil in the bilge could be from a sloppy change...who knows.
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Re: 1972 tartan 30

At the very least, run the engine on the hard, using a bucket of water for cooling.

Since it's located in the middle of the cabin, you can easily observe the engine for excess vibration, leaks, smoke, etc. While the engine is running, shine a powerful light onto "mating surfaces" like the cylinder head, intake and exhaust manifolds, thermostat housing, injectors, water pump, heat exchanger...anywhere that something could leak a gas or fluid.
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Re: 1972 tartan 30

I am trying to confirm but the survey from 06. Had the motor at 86 hours. A mechanic said its likely to have about 200 on it now. Hard to believe it could be shot. We shall see. Probably spring for the survey.
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Re: 1972 tartan 30

It is hard to believe that it is shot unless it was run without oil, or cooling water at some point. Bad fuel and improper fuel filters can do a real number on the fuel injection system. (I once looked at a boat with a friend that the owner had removed the fuel filter from the system. When asked he said,"It was a pain in the neck, since it kept getting blocked up.") Injector parts are expensive even when bought at the farm store.
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