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C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

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C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?
My boat is an all hank on setup. On my port side I have 2 haylards one comes off the verry top of the mast on a internal shive. The second one is lower and comes off a external pully.
I am going to try to fly the asy shoot in the dousing sock. I need to try my best not to wrap it around the for stay.
thanks for your advise.
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

I would guess the one at the top is the jib halyard and the lower one is the spinnaker halyard.
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

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O.K on my
C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?
My boat is an all hank on setup. On my port side I have 2 haylards one comes off the verry top of the mast on a internal shive. The second one is lower and comes off a external pully.
I am going to try to fly the asy shoot in the dousing sock. I need to try my best not to wrap it around the for stay.
thanks for your advise.
The key question is the location of the halyard exit/block relative to the fore stay. If the halyard exit/block is below the fore stay, it is a jib halyard, if above, it is a spinnaker halyard. On masthead boats like yours, a spinnaker halyard usually turns in a block hanging off a crane/bail that projects it ahead of the fore stay (such as the image).

If you fly your spinnaker with a jib halyard, dousing it on the same side on which it was raised reduces the likelihood it will snag on the furling gear and refuse to come down (trust me, that can be a pain...).
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

I would expect that the halyard on the external block is the spinnaker halyard, but it should not be 'lower' than the internal sheaves for the jib. If it is, as long as it's above and forward of the forestay itself it's probably OK.

I would not use the jib halyards, the sheaves and esp. the exit leads are not meant for sideways loads and leads such as those imposed by spinnakers.
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

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I would guess the one at the top is the jib halyard and the lower one is the spinnaker halyard.
The spinnaker halyard will exit the mast above the forestay. The jib halyard will exist the mast below the forestay.
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

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I am going to try to fly the asy shoot in the dousing sock. I need to try my best not to wrap it around the for stay.
thanks for your advise.
Two tips.

If you do need to douse the asym on a tack other than the one on which you launched it, you will need to move the dousing line around the forestay to get the dousing bag down.

After you get the asym down and stowed, ensure that the spin halyard does not foul the top swivel. Harden the halyard tight.
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

Sorry for the delay in my post. I wanted to take a few photos to show the Bow. I have nothing past the forstay. the for stay is is strapped to the very nose of the boat. I had a 3 way pully line for the boat. Not sure what it was for, But I think it might have been made for the Tack of the ASy on this boat. Please take a look and see if looks like that to you?




Here is a photo with it laying in the companion door way, Disconnected.







Please let me know what the best way to Attach the ASY to this type of set up??


Thanks again for your help
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

That's a multi-part tack line for the Asym.. btw I think you've got it hooked on upside down... the block you're holding up would attach to the bow, the other to the tack of the sail. The tail should be long enough to get back to the cockpit to allow easy adjustment, but I suppose that's not critical if you're prepared to send someone forward to do it.. but typically it's lead aft. The third block is probably meant to go on the rail amidships to help that lead aft..



Except for it's being attached out front, that could also be a Spinn pole downhaul for a symmetrical spinn... do you have that elsewhere?.. or perhaps a preventer setup.
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

I wonder if your lower external "halyard" is a topping lift for a spinnaker pole? I just added a topping lift to my mast and it could easily be confused for a super low halyard.

The spinnaker halyard should be mounted above the forestay. On most boats this is done by mounting a crane to the masthead or with a block mounted forward and above the forestay tang. On my Isomat mast there are internal blocks for two spinnaker halyards that come out above the forestay, but even Isomat recommended using a crane if often flying a spinnaker. My Catalina mast had an attachment point for a block, but they recommended using a crane if you have roller furling.
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Re: C&C30 MK1 What halyard to use?

I have a uphaul haylard for a spineker pole,a main halyard,a jib halyard, a spineker halyard. I have a spineker track.
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