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First Boat Recommendation

Last week while returning from my boat on our first sail of the year my 18 year old son, who just graduated from high school, surprised me with "you know, I'd really like to get my own boat and learn to sail." I spent the last week looking at boats for sale, more than I normally do much to the chagrin of my wife, and have narrowed it down to either a 1982 MacGregor 22 or a Cal 21, both are priced about the same though the MacGregor is 10 years newer. My question is, having never sailed on either which would you choose for:

A) A first boat
B) Overnighting
C) Trailering
D) Forgiveness while learning to sail.

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Re: First Boat Recommendation

Cal 21. Better manufacturer.
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Re: First Boat Recommendation

Cal 21; those are tough little boats. A Cal 20 raced to Hawaii from SF in the Singlehanded Trans-Pac. If one can cross the Pacific and not get rolled or holed I'd say it's seaworthy and forgiving enough. MacGregor 22; not so much.
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Re: First Boat Recommendation

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Buy the one you don't mind owning if an 18 yr old changes there mind 30 days from now! I applaud you for giving your son this opportunity, but it would be normal for something to take a youngin in a different direction. They are still learning what they like most.

Buy the one that you don't mind seeing scratched, dented or broken and are equally willing to help fix. Most 18 year olds, particularly newbie sailors are going to break things.

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Re: First Boat Recommendation

Import, while a good list, it sounds like CatMan is beyond all those points.

I don't have experience with the Cal 21 but my first boat was a Venture 2-22 (which then became MacGregor). I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it for a first boat. I sailed it on the Chesapeake and it survived me. If it's a first boat with the intention to learn on, you probably aren't going to circumnavigate in it or even head to the islands (although for years there was a flotilla of Macs that made the trip from Florida to the Bahamas).

I would also consider which one is in better shape. Even if the Mac is newer, is it in worse shape than the Cal? Which one has better rigging and sails?

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Guess I should have added that both have had rigging replaced in the last year, both are structurally sound with no apparent softness issues and that I did insist he take sailing lessons if buying the boat comes to fruition. The second part of the equation is he has agreed to pay half the purchase price, pay for insurance and all license and lake fees. He'll either sail where I do at a 10,750 acre lake or at a local 1400 acre lake that is used exclusively by sailboats or fishing craft with under 10 horse motors.
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In that case, if it was me, and knowing that it's just a boat to learn on, I'd probably flip a coin.
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